I’m scared shitless that I will make it to 100.
This. No one realizes that your probably not gonna make it to 100 in perfect health. If your body doesn’t go, it will be your mind. Either way, it does not sound appealing.
If nothing else, the arthritis has gotten so bad, you wanna off yourself anyways.
Hard pass.
I don’t wanna get to the point where it seems miserable just to, like, walk or something. I don’t mind taking heart medication, walking with a cane, stuff like that, but I don’t wanna live in near constant agony just trying to get through the day.
We have robots. It’s the future now. We should be retiring at 85 while the robots live in luxurious sky cities.
We should be retiring at 50. This is bullshit.
We should be building a society where the concept of retiring is alien because the entire point of living isn’t to work.
RIGHT???
because the entire point of living isn’t to work.
But the point of living is simply to survive and procreate. There’s no innate requirement of “living” to be not working… we worked hard for thousands of years just killing things to eat.
Wr should be able to retire whenever we want. Fuck work.
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You can retire at any age you want lol. Most people didn’t live in their means nor did they save for retirement starting at 18/22. This was possible 30 years ago. These days? Not so much.
It doesn’t mean you can’t leverage it way better than most though. Starting a Roth IRA saves more money than even paying off your house loan in half the time. That’s saving an extra $70,000 for most. Putting into retirement early triples that lol.
Compound interest via stock/bonds is a bullshit money generating hack made up by rich people to get richer though. The poors literally get their dregs from riding on their coattails then acting like they invested well. Nobody wants to admit that you should be able to retire indefinitely by what amounts to hoarding above a certain dollar threshold though lol.
Is it really just a simple matter of living within your means when you are constantly bombarded with the idea that you are inferior for not having that shiny new thing and banks are constantly trying to push you into predatory debt schemes like credit cards?
At that point, I don’t blame people for not having a retirement fund. This is a systemic problem, not an individual failure and we should look at changing those systemic failures rather than pointing the finger at people and saying, “you fell for our bullshit and now you are poor. Shame on you!”
Tell me you have bad credit and a spending problem without telling me you have bad credit and a spending problem
Tell me you’re a stupid chud without saying you’re a stupid chud.
Avg life span is 80+ in most countries…
Thanks for starting my day with giving me a midlife crisis.
Brah, I kinda figure education that was for you didn’t count … If it helps
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middle aged would be around 36.
I didn’t come here to be insulted.
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I thought 50 was the middle of your adult life, 20-80 ish years old
This was my understanding as well.
Uhm, retirement was invented for the elderly who can’t really work on the fields/processing plants anymore. Work changed and people got older since then.
Work is now driving people to age faster due to stress.
I took a year off work recently to detox and had a zero cortisol policy. Lines on my face faded, hair looks great and stopped thinning, came back nicely, lost weight, almost have a six pack for the first time in my life approaching 40. People know how stressful work is but most don’t understand what it’s like to truly live for yourself stress free. I’m super fortunate and grateful for having the opportunity to do that and highly recommend.
The hardest part about going back to work was reentering that disgusting American corporate culture of toxic optimism. I’m fine with a lot of work and my stress tolerance/management is much better now. But that culture of toxic optimism is hard to handle.
Yeah I had a genius boss who was an outrageous overworker. Like he didn’t always work on his job but when not he was learning to play guitar, learning languages, always “on”, didn’t sleep much and got more done than most any two regular people could do. Like at work he did the work of 3 people at least. It broke his marriage, his life but he cannot slow down. I actually like him as a person but it’s terrifying.
On every review I got points from him for “work-life management”, limiting work so that I could do life, be with my kids, SLEEP, exercise, take all my “use it or lose it” PTO, etc. I made myself available for one late day a week and one weekend a month, am not inflexible but not so hyperfocused on work and for some reason he could see this as a good quality in an employee - others in the department tried to meet his insane standards and would burn out. By keeping my boundaries I can be creative, see solutions, not get so deep in that I lose the objectivity.
You are not a better worker by killing yourself giving too much to work. Not even by the standards of a boss who is killing himself with overwork. Keep your objectivity. Rest, work, exercise, play, rest. Not work hard play hard, no.
Yeah, that’s my “problem”; i’m bad at bearing stress. Neither am i willing to, because my body tells me it’s bad.
Most people still work manual labor jobs. Cognitive ability also declines with age. Age discrimination during hiring/recruiting is fairly common (witnessed it at nearly every job I’ve ever had, even though it’s illegal, and I’ve had a lot of jobs). There aren’t enough “bullshit jobs” like Walmart greeter for everybody. Aging population can be solved by permissible immigration (which are comparably younger populations), but there are too many racists and politicians worried about demographic shifts.
Since when do people think 50 is middle-aged? To me it’s always been 30-something years old
I’ve always viewed middle aged as 40s
I agree here.
The problem is that we are living longer and healthier than even before and the trend is to keep on rising.
What the real problem is that allowing a person to actually live is troublesome for the current system in place, as in if you do not produce, you are not valuable.
But you are.
Longer and healthier? Diabetes, obesity, heart-disease and auto-immune diseases are at all time highs.
Specifically because other forms of death are significantly down…
So yes the average is increasing… But the there are other things causing us some major road-blocks.
Wait, your retirement age is less than the average lifespan?
This average is probably including deaths from accidents and illness.
The average life expectancy of men in the US is 73 (it was 74 pre-COVID).
If they told you 36 is middle age you would be less inclined to live
So, what’s the average life expectancy of people who live past the age of 30?
