• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      We should be building a society where the concept of retiring is alien because the entire point of living isn’t to work.

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        1 year ago

        because the entire point of living isn’t to work.

        But the point of living is simply to survive and procreate. There’s no innate requirement of “living” to be not working… we worked hard for thousands of years just killing things to eat.

    • blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      You can retire at any age you want lol. Most people didn’t live in their means nor did they save for retirement starting at 18/22. This was possible 30 years ago. These days? Not so much.

      It doesn’t mean you can’t leverage it way better than most though. Starting a Roth IRA saves more money than even paying off your house loan in half the time. That’s saving an extra $70,000 for most. Putting into retirement early triples that lol.

      Compound interest via stock/bonds is a bullshit money generating hack made up by rich people to get richer though. The poors literally get their dregs from riding on their coattails then acting like they invested well. Nobody wants to admit that you should be able to retire indefinitely by what amounts to hoarding above a certain dollar threshold though lol.

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        1 year ago

        Is it really just a simple matter of living within your means when you are constantly bombarded with the idea that you are inferior for not having that shiny new thing and banks are constantly trying to push you into predatory debt schemes like credit cards?

        At that point, I don’t blame people for not having a retirement fund. This is a systemic problem, not an individual failure and we should look at changing those systemic failures rather than pointing the finger at people and saying, “you fell for our bullshit and now you are poor. Shame on you!”

        • SCB@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Tell me you have bad credit and a spending problem without telling me you have bad credit and a spending problem