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    To that, Rogan responded, “Oh, so [Trump] fucked up.” Nickal commented, “That’s the thing about media these days. You gotta look into it.”

    Hey fucko, you’re a part of the media

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      The ol’ Fox news switcheroo.

      They brag about being the most watched news on television and also tell their viewers to not trust mainstream media.

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        Yeah, and it works wonderfully. Why wouldn’t they roll with it?

        We libs think we score some kinda “gotcha!” by pointing to the hypocrisy. It’s not working for us.

        They got a formula that works. We do not. Isn’t it about time to abandon the high road and engage in lying, cheating and stealing? Hell, they already think we’re doing it.

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      Not only that, with being one of the most popular podcasts ever you could even call it mainstream.

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        Exactly the person you’d want on your show for nuanced political discussion. Thank you once again, Joe Rogan.

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              True. A few years ago I started watching old JRE videos and enjoyed them, but when I started watching the videos as they came out, I found the show sucked because Rogan wasn’t just platforming people anymore, he was actively pushing his own beliefs because he’d become convinced he was an expert on everything.

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    What’s fun is the moment he realized it was Trump. He went from Biden should be removed because mentally unfit, to well Trump just misspoke

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      Prime example of a pot… cough cough cough hack hack cough haaaack cough cough cough… pot calling… haack haaack… black. Huuaaah. It’s just allergies.

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        Not directly related beyond steaming and podcasting apparently rotting people’s brains, but I just watched a stream where a guy tried to cough up a lung and then said “it’s not allergies, chat, it’s just hay fever”

        Like, damn bro. You’re about to get clowned on by thirteen year olds with more medical knowledge than you.

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          In case I’m not the only one who didn’t know what hay fever is:

          Hay fever is the common name for allergic rhinitis.

          Hay fever is caused by the nose and/or eyes coming into contact with environmental allergens, such as pollens (grasses, weeds or trees), dust mite, moulds and animal dander.

          Fuckin lmao

          (E: forgot the link)

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    Maybe Rogan needs a new, younger, fresher host on that show.

    Rogan should step down as we see his mental facilities are in decline.

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    There’s no mistake. It’s his intent to blast Biden, not to speak the truth. He 100% achieved his goal.

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      If you read the article, it says he was corrected and acknowledged the mistake.

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        He did not acknowledge the logical conclusion that everything he said about Biden being unfit should then in theory be applied to Trump. No, Trump just “fucked up”.

        If read the article critically, you would not accept such a lazy correction.

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          I actually watched the podcast for the context of this article. You’re right, he doesn’t apply the same scrutiny towards Trump. Yet, he does acknowledge it and they showed the clip of Trump’s idiotic speech. They also laugh at him, but then move on. Anyone that actually watches the podcast, the ones you’re afraid will be manipulated into fascism or whatever, would have seen that recanted. The only side that has a real opinion swaying agenda is the media side. A lot of people just read headlines and move on. Those people would never even be aware of the correction.

          Also, I don’t care. I know Joe Rogan has different political views than I do and that doesn’t stop me from seeing him as a person that is entitled to his own views. I can still respect him for his work in comedy, mma and for his podcast. I haven’t watched a full one in a while, but he has some good ones with interesting people. He also has a way of interviewing people that seems mich more real than most other formats. He just shoots the shit with people and it doesn’t feel like some scripted intentional message they’re trying to put out.

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            the ones you’re afraid will be manipulated into fascism or whatever, would have seen that recanted.

            They would have seen a recantion, yes, but nothing about either saying why he just ranted about Biden’s mental fitness with appropriate evidence OR spend some significant time retracting each adjective that he applied to Biden on false information.

            He is fucking broadcasting. Stop treating him like a buddy sitting on your couch. He either knows what he is doing, or he has no respect for the power of having a large audience that can internalize messages on his word.

            I believe your comment shows a lack of awareness of how people get piped to fascist viewpoints. To be clear, I do not think Rogen is intentionally leading people there, but being an idiot is not a great shield.

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                That’s also why Joe Rogans stupid conspiracy theories and political bias can be dangerous, sometimes. Stupid people will believe every word like he knows what he’s talking about.

                I don’t hate him or think he’s evil, either, fwiw. He’s just a dumb out of touch rich guy with too many gullible fans.

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              I don’t know about evil, but he has a platform with a huge amount of influence which he uses to push a conservative viewpoint. That, at the very least, makes him immoral.

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              I don’t understand why people act like he’s the fucking devil. Like, you can think he’s a dumbass, but some people seem to want to act like he’s legitimately evil.

              Here, don’t run and hide from your ignorance, let it shine.

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        You are mistaken in thinking that changes anything.

        Fascists only need to blast their message. Any incorrectness or recanting is 100% irrelevant and inconsequential.

        When the nazis roll over the government and burn it all down, I swear, there’ll be this 10% subset of people befuddled that this could be happening after all of the recanting. It doesn’t matter. Don’t let them convince you it matters.

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          Like blasting headlines about how shitty Joe Rogan is? I’ve seen a ton of them and pretty much all of them are overblown, taken out of context or misleading. Media knows you guys love to hate him, that’s why they put out these pieces in the first place.

          Also, I fail to see how someone wanting to put down Biden is bad. People are entitled to their opinions and views, even if they aren’t what you agree with. I seriously doubt Joe Rogan is plotting to make America fascist. Biden is not without his faults as well. His main selling point is that he isn’t Trump.

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              If you don’t see the hypocrisy in your own words, then your conclusion doesn’t mean much to me.

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                  Yeah totally, one supports your opinion and the other does not.

                  Just curious, but why do you think they are different? It’s real easy to just say “no you’re wrong”.

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    I seen a bit of this interview yesterday. The article doesn’t cover it all. As soon as these 2 knuckleheads started spewing airports and it was Biden that said this I was confused as this was something Trump said a few years back. Didn’t they know? They ride the media for skewing things and they weren’t even aware of how Trump was called out in the same media for this some time back.

    Below this fellow breaks down the double standard in more detail than the article does. It covers how Rogan and his Guest said no one should listen to Biden and how he is unfit for office due to this airport thing. Then when the producer points out to Rogan that Biden is referring to what Trump previously said, it wasn’t a big deal all of a sudden to Rogan and the guest.

    Trump gets a “whoopsie doodle” pass and Trump is still the better choice in his mind I’m sure. Not saying Biden is a gem of a rose but with how hard the right are trying to pin anything on Biden and failing, Trump is still a rotten to the core choice for endless reasons.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1LANk2O4oh/?igsh=MWYwMDF5YXk0ZjJnNw==

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          At least a few months back Alex Jones was bragging about finally converting Rogan to his side. He’d been telling his audience for years he’s been working on getting Rogan to take his stance.

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            Dipshits of a feather I guess. Except Rohan I’d been a sucking on the right wing money teat for almost a decade. The yoga anti mask pro gun movement has been a big part of that since covid in late 2020.

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            The fact that anyone gives Rogan the time of day even though he not only platforms Alex Jones, but considers him a friend, is just disgusting.

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      Its always unfalsifiable. They’re right no matter their position, $100 million > objective reality any day /s

      Thats why estoppel in the legal system and the legal system in general are Trump’s kryptonite, even if it looks like hes constantly usurping it. Make him pin down himself and he just can’t do it so he loses cuz he can’t stop himself from hedging or being sure what he says is going to be universally adored by those he “represents”

      Also, like those Targets that let you steal until its a felony and both of you hit the big time 🎬

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      I miss the days when he was doing stand up and straight up telling people “I’m an idiot. Please don’t take me seriously.” It definitely is better than now, where he is still an idiot but people do take him seriously.

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        I miss when he was doing standup, too, because he sucked at it so nobody was posting his clips

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            I liked him in News Radio, but I would also have said the same about Andy Dick. Come to think of it, both of them played idiot savant characters so maybe it was just the genius casting in that show.

            He was also perfectly cast in Fear Factor. It was like something he was born to do.

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        Nah fuck that. That was always his trick, he doesn’t actually think he’s an idiot, it’s just his get out of jail card.

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        His stand up was atrocious, I hate even listen to him talk about comedy and comedians because it’d be like me talking about nuclear physics and how our brains work.

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          You don’t like his stand-up? You don’t like to hear about almond nipples and Kim Kardashian while he’s hunched over a stool?

          In all seriousness, I was so disappointed in his stand up when I was a fan. For a guy that talks to so many people about so many different topics, his stand up was so boring.

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      The years of ped abuse and blows to the head from sparring at work. Never was a smart guy, but that sure didn’t help.

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    Rogan is a truly horrible human being. I absolutely cannot stand that asshole. He is the walking and talking Dunning-Krueger Effect. He is a washed up comedian who moved on to making people eat disgusting stuff on a shitty reality show to thinking he is some sort of brilliant host.

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      He’s like the unfortunate result of Jerry Springer, Rush Limbaugh and Morton Downey Jr spreading idiocy and bullshit everywhere, setting the stage

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      I feel like somone correct me if I’m wrong, that early on he was decent. He listened and had good long interviews.

      But, somewhere along the way he started to like the smell of his own farts and things when down the crazy hole.

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    I keep getting videos of Rogan pushed on YouTube, while I constantly mark them as “not interested” of report them as “fake news”. He’s like a horrible decease you never can get rid of.

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          I made a typo because I’m dyslectic and I got corrected. The sentence was “he is like a disease-” and your response is “wishful thinking”? So, you wish he was like a disease? I kinda feel like he already is, so your wish came through. But to what you meant, it’s really horrible to have a disease, wishing that onto the people you oppose makes you as bad as they are. I just wish he would see the harm he does, he would see the world as it really is instead of his vision which is through very polarized glasses, and I wish he would stop spreading his BS.

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      Ironically, you marking them as not interested and reporting them probably counts as engagement to show those videos more often.

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        No, YouTube just has an (among other examples) “young white western male” problem.

        The algorithm works hard to jam you into a pigeon hole no matter how abhorrent you find the pigeon shit contained therein.

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          It’s an AI problem. Because the algorithm only looks at things you have done, which after some time include you looking at its recommendations, it cannot see past the bucket it has you in.

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        It shouldn’t, I don’t see them anymore by choosing the don’t recommend this channel to me anymore. And I do bij so watch a ton of bjj videos, so anytime some channel pops up that uses his clips it’s recommended to me. Still his own channel and that main clipping channel are things I haven’t seen in a long time.

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    This guy right here is the reason some 1,500 jobs were lost from Spotify.

    Talk about overpaid piece of shit.

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        Not the original commenter here but this one doesn’t make a direct connection, but certainly says Spotify blew money poorly that they are trying to make up for, although it mainly mentions cuts in podcasts. This one make s bit more of a correlation saying "The cancellations coincide with jobs cuts at Spotify Monday that eliminated 17% of the streaming company’s staff, or around 1,500 people. Spotify has undertaken several rounds of job cuts since October 2022. " https://fortune.com/2023/12/04/spotify-podcasts-cancelled-heavyweight-stolen/ However you’re not going to find much more than that because it would require a degree of openness and honest that a shitty company isn’t going to give. So it’s hard to say a direct connection doesn’t exist when all the data on that is kept secret by the people who profit from it.

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    Here’s a direct excerpt from the article:

    Shortly after the exchange during the show, “The Joe Rogan Experience” producer Jamie Vernon cut in to correct Rogan. Vernon played a clip that Rogan had cited, which was in fact a video of Biden mocking “stable genius” Trump for the comments about airports in the Revolutionary War. Then Vernon ran a video clip of Trump’s “Salute to America” remarks from July 4, 2019, in which the former president praised Americans’ military efforts in the war against Great Britain.

    In the speech, Trump said in part, “Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory.” (Meanwhile, Fort McHenry was the site of a key American victory over the British navy in the War of 1812, not the Revolutionary War.)

    To that, Rogan responded, “Oh, so [Trump] fucked up.” Nickal commented, “That’s the thing about media these days. You gotta look into it.”

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      Not happening here, once people get a hate boner for someone or something… they’re full on blind to the nuance.

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      Yeah it’s the “media”. You have the #1 podcast in the world spreading misinformation. Unfunny fuck nugget prick Rogan.

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    One of the most punchable throats in media makes nonsensical noises. Film at eleven.

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      Dude doesn’t even have a neck. He literally has one of the least punchable throats.

      Edit - he’s like a turtle with his head retracted. Just a forehead sticking out of a wide torso

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        I all for the Rogan-bashing, but had he not since admitted he’s seen enough evidence to realize that the moon landing was real?

        However, knowing full well that he, although he considers himself a “sceptic” (in the modern sense of the word, where no actual scepticism is involved), was taken in by a conspiracy theory made up of whole cloth, it doesn’t make him the least bit less likely to fooled by other conspiracy theories – probably because they, mistakenly, makes him feel smart.

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      I watched a couple of episodes years ago. One with Wim Hof, and one with a guy talking about Terrence Mckenna. They were interesting enough, but I never got hooked. It sounds like the show has gone downhill from there.

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        He really fell into the alt-right “manosphere” crowd after Covid restrictions started rolling out I think. Those really put a damper on his two business and personal interests outside of his podcast: stand up comedy, and MMA. It was so much he moved his studio from LA to somewhere in Texas where they obviously didn’t give a shit about Covid.

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        Well what do you know? Those are also the only episodes I ever went through. Maybe also one about Bitcoin… was Andreas Antonopoulos ever a guest? But don’t answer that, it’s not important, what’s important is that this toxic meathead detoured into q-anon territory, then went off like an excrement bomb on the internet, not unlike infowars a few years earlier, and I have no interest in either, may they rot far away from my mind.

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    Does he still have Young Jamie fact-checking and pulling stuff up? Its hilarious that Jamie let him prep his own noose and reinforce/double-down and then let him pull the switch

    Edit: i do want to credit Rogan for keeping Young Jamie around, its the only way I ever listen to his podcast. There needs to be an adult (Young Jamie) in the room to facillitate important moments like this and pushback on Joe’s more freewheeling side where facts and interpretations are involved ans politically-influential

    I do think Rogan retains a nominal openess that I appreciate altho its becoming less and less certain about how truly open he is in terms of hosting people he disagrees with like Bill Maher seems to do in my experience watching.