Afghan, Armenian, Azerbaijani, Bahraini, Bangladeshi, Bhutanese, Bruneian, Cambodian, Chinese, Cypriot, Georgian, Indian, Indonesian, Iranian, Iraqi, Japanese, Jordanian, Kazakhstani, Kuwaiti, Kyrgyzstani, Laotian, Lebanese, Malaysian, Maldivian, Mongolian, Burmese, Nepali, North Korean, Omani, Pakistani, Palestinian, Filipino, Qatari, Russian, Saudi Arabian, Singaporean, South Korean, Sri Lankan, Syrian, Taiwanese, Tajik, Thai, Turkish, Turkmen, Emirati, Uzbekistani, Vietnamese, Yemeni people are asians.
The term “Asian” is almost never used in the geographical rather than socio-cultural sense, though.
Cypriots are certainly European, culturally, and a good number of these nationalities are considered “Middle Eastern” rather than “West Asian”.
Wow, I had no idea that Cyprus was in Asia. Totally agree they are culturally European.
What point are you trying to make exactly?
It’s a “shower thought.” It doesn’t need to have a point.
A “shower thought” alludes to some ‘realization’ you’ve had while zoning out in the shower. This… isn’t that and is more just basic geography.
Basic geography to you.
About a year ago I realized that Russia is both in Europe and Asia…. that was a realization about geography.
Was it basic? Probably. Probably shows OP’s and my limits regarding geography knowledge.
TLDR: dumb dumbs have realizations which can be basic knowledge to the average person.
See, your realization would actually be a good shower thought.
OP’s post seems more like a response or reaction to something else (which we don’t have context for). Who thinks that North/South Korea, China, and Japan are the only countries in Asia? Like, specifically in the US, I think we’re all familiar with Vietnam (and the Vietnam war) along with Laos and Cambodia, the Philippines, Thailand, etc.
I don’t mean to demean anyone not familiar with geography, but even if you don’t know the names of the countries, you’d have to know more countries exist there, which is why I think this is a weird post. It’d be like posting “The United States consists of multiple states”
I think “Asian” evolved to replace “Oriental” since that is no longer an accepted word to use.
While I understand why we’re trying to get away from such labels as they have historically been used in a derogatory way, it is useful when describing a person. If my white friend told me to look for his friend John in a crowd, and he described him without mentioning he’s “Asian”, I’d probably expect another white guy, since we’re both white. It’s the difference between looking for John Mulaney and John Cho.
While I hate to divide and label people based on how they look, it is a useful way to describe what someone looks like without having to teach the term “epicanthic folds” to everyone.
Wouldn’t you agree that describing John Cho as an average height guy in his early 40s with Asian characteristics is no different than describing John Boyega as a black guy of average height in his early 30s?
Give me a better term to use and I’ll use it.
Just to be “that guy”, oriental isn’t a bad word in British English. It’s used very commonly in the names of Cantonese restaurants for example. It’s less commonly used to describe people, but if you did need to specify that the person was east-asian, it wouldn’t raise any eyebrows.
since that is no longer an accepted word to use.
That’s more of a US thing. The orient express for example ran all the way up to 2009. It’s an old and unused word, but not really seen as offensive. Some places in Asia even still use that term today.
I never even heard it used in a derogatory way. It seems like one day SJW decided it was racist, campaigned against it, and that was that. But they seem to think adjectives in general are offensive, so it’s not surprising.
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What’s Voat?
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You guys?
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You are right.
If not for the mannerism, expression , and fashion I can’t even place an educated guess with confidence on East Asians as an East Asian. Let alone ethnicities even more different that I didn’t inherited the depths on. Of course it will be problematic if that person informed their ethnicity and their boundaries yet that information is disregarded and disrespected by the receiver. Ignorant but with a will to learn is always good in my book.
P.S. For a general term you are looking for, I vote East Asian in place outdated “oriental”.
P.P.S. I am not a representative of anyone and my bad take is my own.
Uhm, common knowledge? I couldn’t recite every country of course.
Wow, someone else has actually heard of Cypriots.
I’m sure we’ll go back to being forgotten about in like five minutes, but I’m gonna enjoy this moment while it lasts.
At my old company I had a few coworkers in Cyprus and they were some great people. One of my US coworkers ended up moving there. I did a video call with him and saw the view he had and holy shit that was the most beautiful beach I’ve ever seen.
I’m mostly kidding; I’m an American mutt myself. My father’s family is from Cyprus, though, and I would love to see the place with my own eyes at least once in my life.
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Palestinians as well!
I added them and removed Israelis :)
I don’t know why but I find this hilarious
As we all should.
A bunch of that is “middle eastern”.
Asia is a huge continent with many distinct ethnic groups, gotta split em up to be more precise when describing someone
Sorry I forgot the middle east is in california👍🏻
Wat
Context is king.
Not gonna lie, when I saw that list of places, I fell onto a “song of elements” kind of melody and tempo.
Eurasia is a single continent, the distinction between the two is cultural.
Eurasia is a single continent,
the distinction between the two is cultural.
Fully agreed there.
Hm, the concept of Afroeurasia opens some interesting possibilities in extending the EU.
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If the Bering Land Bridge still existed, would you also consider Asia and North America as the same continent?
The definition of continent is made to be useful in daily life to distinguish people’s from global habitats.
Wasn’t it mostly ice?
I wouldn’t, the same way I wouldn’t lump the two Americas together.
Europe is a bit more hazy. What to do of Russia or Turkey?
A few of those countries on the east of the Black Sea might disagree with you.
I like to add Hmong and Karen to the list.
These aren’t countries.
What about Taiwanese, Russians, Tibetians?
Russians are Eurasian. The country straddles both continents.
Plus most of them are in Europe
Actually it’s just what the society accepts. You can’t change it. Similarly, you can’t change the fact that a Mexican can’t be called an American.
Mexican-American. Checkmate
You’re wrong on both counts. Asian denotes a person from asia. American can denote someone from ANY of the Americas or someone from the US.
Not saying it’s the way it should be, but since North and South America are different continents, I typically hear “North American” used for Canadian, Guatemalan, Honduran, Mexican, Costa Rican, etc; “South American” for Brazilian, Columbian, Chilean, etc. There is no adjective for a citizen of the USA other than “American” that I can think of (no USA’an), so “American” is used as citizen of the US.
In technical stuff, “American” can mean “North American”, like the NEMA 5-15 plug is known as the “American electrical plug” which uses 110V-125 V at 60 Hz. This is a standard for all of North America (except Belize, which uses it only in part of the country).
The United States is a construct of the states themselves. Technically, 2/3 of the states could vote to dissolve the federal government and I’d suddenly become a Tennessean only. It’s not feasible, since every state gave up their right to have their own currency and have their own diplomats to join the US, but it’s something to note. The US could cease to exist by a simple vote, no overthrow of government required.
Except the whole thing where the people we call Mexican today lived in South West America 200 years ago…
So it really is a terrible example to “Asian”…
Because there is no country called “Asia”.
There is a continent called Asia, as well as one called Africa and another called Europe.
People from those places are called African, and European respectively.
Not to mention places like the middle east…
Americans aren’t just people from the United States. Canada, Mexico, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, and Venezuela are also American as they all reside in North or South America.
Yeah.
