I use Ubuntu. I think it’s funny how Arch users immediately assume they know more about Linux than me because of my distro choice. My hobby is learning about Linux and I can do that perfectly from my Ubuntu machine.
I’ve used Arch in the past, and let me tell you, nothing crazy is going on in there.
Yes, Ubuntu sucks because they are forcing Snaps on people while snaps are slow as hell. Thankfully they haven’t fully shoved snaps down our throats. If they don’t make snaps faster before shoving them down my throat, I’ll just distro hop. Probably to Debian. I love Debian.
Arch user here. I have no idea what I’m doing. Killing Floor just crashed my graphics card or something to crash and my monitors aren’t working after reboots. Oh god
They do know this is a popular myth spread around by the antiquities of debian/mint/ubuntu users who wait a few years for Arch users to locate any bugs.
I went from Ubuntu to Arch and I think I’m here to stay. Ubuntu was unstable for me for some reason. I would get freezes and crashes all the time. I feel like Canonical is making things slower and bloated but I have had pretty smooth experiences with Linux mint. On Arch I’ve been getting amazing uptime. But to each ones own, if you like it, who am I to judge.
I’ve been pleasantly impressed with Manjaro after using it for a month now, coming from Kubuntu. I’ve been running some flavor of Ubuntu for about a year after ditching Windows.
There’s plenty of available packages (between repos, flatpak, snap, and AUR), good user support via the Arch wiki and googling, and it’s just more stable for me.
I’d heard that Manjaro is Arch for cowards, and I’m very comfortable with that choice.
One of my favorite features of arch is the aur, and because manjaro lags behind arch releases, you can run into trouble. If you want arch without the install difficulties, I would try something like endeaver os or garuda. You’ll end up with actual arch in the end and you wont end up with some of outdated certs or whanever manjaro ucks up nowadays.
I don’t get the complains about snap apps. My firefox opens near instant, even after a reboot. Maybe they fixed that with Luna Lobster? That’s the first Ubuntu I installed on my PC since Ubuntu 9.04.
I have installed Firefox in my machine and the difference is around 3 seconds.
For me, how my system feels is pretty important. If something isn’t snappy, my stress levels start to rise. So those 3 seconds do make a difference. Some people might not care at all, which is understandable.
If you don’t care, use it, enjoy it. You’re free to pick what matches your priorities and preferences.
I would care if it took 3s to start, after all I moved all my storage to NVMe for a reason. So I totally get why you would be annoyed with snaps, it’s just that in my experience there’s simply no noticeable startup time in 23.04, firefox opens in under a second.
So they either fixed that in LL or you can outmuscle it with hardware, and I’m genuinely just curios which one it is.
I’m inclined for the second one. It would be pretty big news if they fixed it. My hardware is not bad but it isn’t great either. I usually get laptops from my workplaces so my personal laptop is kinda old.
Keep in mind that a lot of people use Linux exactly because they don’t have good hardware specs.
I use Ubuntu. I think it’s funny how Arch users immediately assume they know more about Linux than me because of my distro choice. My hobby is learning about Linux and I can do that perfectly from my Ubuntu machine.
I’ve used Arch in the past, and let me tell you, nothing crazy is going on in there.
Yes, Ubuntu sucks because they are forcing Snaps on people while snaps are slow as hell. Thankfully they haven’t fully shoved snaps down our throats. If they don’t make snaps faster before shoving them down my throat, I’ll just distro hop. Probably to Debian. I love Debian.
Arch users HAVE to know a lot because their updates break it conatantly
Honestly I’ve found it to be surprisingly stable, and the only time the system broke, it was my own fault.
It sounds like you have used it extensively then, because the myth is spread by people who never tried.
Arch user here. I have no idea what I’m doing. Killing Floor just crashed my graphics card or something to crash and my monitors aren’t working after reboots. Oh god
They do know this is a popular myth spread around by the antiquities of debian/mint/ubuntu users who wait a few years for Arch users to locate any bugs.
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I went from Ubuntu to Arch and I think I’m here to stay. Ubuntu was unstable for me for some reason. I would get freezes and crashes all the time. I feel like Canonical is making things slower and bloated but I have had pretty smooth experiences with Linux mint. On Arch I’ve been getting amazing uptime. But to each ones own, if you like it, who am I to judge.
I’m considering leaving Ubuntu. I’m currently looking at Manjaro because I don’t think I have enough time to invest in learning arch. Any tips?
https://github.com/arindas/manjarno read this before you move
I’ve been pleasantly impressed with Manjaro after using it for a month now, coming from Kubuntu. I’ve been running some flavor of Ubuntu for about a year after ditching Windows.
There’s plenty of available packages (between repos, flatpak, snap, and AUR), good user support via the Arch wiki and googling, and it’s just more stable for me.
I’d heard that Manjaro is Arch for cowards, and I’m very comfortable with that choice.
Yeah that sounds good to me - this is my work computer and I can’t afford it to break or to spend even half an hour of the day fixing something
One of my favorite features of arch is the aur, and because manjaro lags behind arch releases, you can run into trouble. If you want arch without the install difficulties, I would try something like endeaver os or garuda. You’ll end up with actual arch in the end and you wont end up with some of outdated certs or whanever manjaro ucks up nowadays.
While you’re absolutely correct, in my personal experience Manjaro has been perfectly stable even with somewhat heavy use of the AUR.
Manjaro had a lot of dark history in past. Just use fedora workstation and chill.
I don’t get the complains about snap apps. My firefox opens near instant, even after a reboot. Maybe they fixed that with Luna Lobster? That’s the first Ubuntu I installed on my PC since Ubuntu 9.04.
I have installed Firefox in my machine and the difference is around 3 seconds.
For me, how my system feels is pretty important. If something isn’t snappy, my stress levels start to rise. So those 3 seconds do make a difference. Some people might not care at all, which is understandable.
If you don’t care, use it, enjoy it. You’re free to pick what matches your priorities and preferences.
I would care if it took 3s to start, after all I moved all my storage to NVMe for a reason. So I totally get why you would be annoyed with snaps, it’s just that in my experience there’s simply no noticeable startup time in 23.04, firefox opens in under a second. So they either fixed that in LL or you can outmuscle it with hardware, and I’m genuinely just curios which one it is.
I’m inclined for the second one. It would be pretty big news if they fixed it. My hardware is not bad but it isn’t great either. I usually get laptops from my workplaces so my personal laptop is kinda old.
Keep in mind that a lot of people use Linux exactly because they don’t have good hardware specs.