• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    10 hours ago

    WTF?

    That man did not say anything. A computer algorithm smashed a video together they incidentally uses his likeness, nothing more

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    11 hours ago

    There is absolutely zero chance I would allow anyone to theorize what they think I would say using AI. Hell, I don’t like AI in its current state, and that’s the least of my issues with this.

    It’s immoral. Regardless of your relation to a person, you shouldn’t be acting like you know what they would say, let alone using that to sway a decision in a courtroom. Unless he specifically wrote something down and it was then recited using the AI, this is absolutely wrong.

    It’s selfish. They used his likeness to make an apology they had no possible way of knowing, and they did it to make themselves feel better. They couldve wrote a letter with their own voices instead of turning this into some weird dystopian spectacle.

    “It’s just an impact statement.”

    Welcome to the slippery slope, folks. We allow use of AI into courtrooms, and not even for something cool (like quickly producing a 3d animation of a car accident for use in explaining—with actual human voices—what happened at the scene). Instead, we use it to sway a judge’s sentencing, while also making an apology on behalf of a dead person (using whatever tech you want because that is not the main problem here) without their consent or even any of their written (you know, like in a will) thoughts.

    Pointing to “AI bad” for these arguments is lazy, reductive, and not even remotely the main gripe.

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    19 hours ago

    Why would a judge allow this? It’s like showing the jury a made-for-TV movie based on the trial they’re hearing.

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      18 hours ago

      Not only did he allow it,

      While the state asked for a nine-and-a-half year sentence, the judge handed Horcasitas a 10-and-a-half year sentence after being so moved by the video, Pelkey’s family said, noting the judge even referred to the video in his statement.

      It has about as much evidentiary value as a ouija board, but since the victim was a veteran and involved with a church and the judge likes those things we can ignore pesky little things like standards of proof and prejudice

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        13 hours ago

        Arizona State professor of law Gary Marchant said the use of AI has become more common in courts.

        “If you look at the facts of this case, I would say that the value of it overweighed the prejudicial effect, but if you look at other cases, you could imagine where they would be very prejudicial,” he told AZFamily.

        Could you imagine how prejudicial such a thing might be? Not here, of course. /S

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        4 hours ago

        So the original comment is just dumb because they couldn’t be bothered to read the article, but upvotes it gets.

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    This bring up an interesting question I like to ask my students about AI. A year or so ago, Meta talked about people making personas of themselves for business. Like if a customer needs help, they can do a video chat with an AI that looks like you and is trained to give the responses you need it to. But what if we could do that just for ourselves, but instead let an AI shadow us for a number of years so it essentially can mimic the language we use and thoughts we have enough to effectively stand in for us in casual conversations?

    If the murdered victim in this situation had trained his own AI in such a manner, after years of shadowing and training, would that AI be able to mimic its master’s behavior well enough to give its master’s most likely response to this situation? Would the AI in the video have still forgiven the murderer, and would it hold more significant meaning?

    If you could snapshot you as you are up to right now, and keep it as a “living photo” A.I. that would behave and talk like you when interacted with, what would you do with it? If you could have a snapshot AI of anyone in the world in a picture frame on your desk, who you could talk to and interact with, who would you choose?

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      it would hold the same meaning as now, which is nothing.

      this is automatic writing with a computer. no matter what you train on, you’re using a machine built to produce things that match other things. the machine can’t hold opinions, can’t remember, can’t answer from the training data. all it can do is generate a plausible transcript of a conversation and steer it with input.

      one person does not generate enough data during a lifetime so you’re necessarily using aggregated data from millions of people as a base. there’s also no meaning ascribed to anything in the training data. if you give it all a person’s memories, the output conforms to that data like water conforms to a shower nozzle. it’s just a filter on top.

      in regards to the final paragraph, i want computers to exhibit as little personhood as possible because i’ve read the transcript of the ELISA experiments. it literally could only figure out subject-verb-object and respond with the same noun as it was fed, and people were saying it should replace psychologists.

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      8 hours ago

      I wouldn’t want to talk to AI either. Just have it send me a voicemail recording of the video, but transcribed into a text, into my spam folder.

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    19 hours ago

    Ok, so his family believed he would forgive, wrote statement for him and made AI make it look like the victim said it. And this is somehow relevant to the court? It’s all nice the family thinks this but what has it got with justice?

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    14 hours ago

    Why even do an impact statement? All Christian victims should be assumed to forgive their attackers, right?

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    18 hours ago

    I swear to Christ, if I get murdered and my family makes an AI video of me forgiving them then I will haunt the shit out of them.

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    19 hours ago

    I’d rather have somebody puppet my corpse like in Weekend at Bernie’s. Basically the same thing but more authentic

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    19 hours ago

    Unless stated otherwise, please do not use my likeness for legal proceedings on the event of my untimely passing. Please.

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    An AI version of Christopher Pelkey appeared in an eerily realistic video to forgive his killer… “In another life, we probably could’ve been friends. I believe in forgiveness, and a God who forgives.”

    The message was well-received by Judge Todd Lang, who told the courtroom, “I love that AI."

    While the state asked for a nine-and-a-half year sentence, the judge handed Horcasitas a 10-and-a-half year sentence after being so moved by the video.

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      Society is on the verge of total collapse

      EDIT: I am reading this over multiple times, and I think the judge is being sarcastic

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      14 hours ago

      How does that even make sense?

      Wouldn’t you lower the sentence if the victim AI says it forgives the killer? Because - you know - it significantly reduces the “revenge” angle the American justice system is based on?

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    18 hours ago

    This is awesome. Next we can have AI Jesus endorsing Trump, AI Nicole Simpson telling us who the real killer was, and AI Abraham Lincoln saying that whole Civil War thing was a big misunderstanding and the Confederacy was actually just fine. The possibilities are endless. I can hardly wait!

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      7 hours ago

      and AI Abraham Lincoln saying that whole Civil War thing was a big misunderstanding and the Confederacy was actually just fine

      Considering he loved the Dixieland song, and his views on society normal for his time, and the intelligence of the average citizen, and those “AI’s” being an extrapolator of meaningless traits on the average citizen’s intelligence - we might actually learn that he’s sorry, he was wrong and we should all go rebel.

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        4 hours ago

        AI-plim says they’re just fine with it and everybody knows AI only presents objective truth.

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    Eww, that’s such a ghoulish thing to do; letting a distortion of a dead person, that could never act as the deceased person, forgive their killer. Do they even know if he would’ve done this if he had a say before being killed?