• Daveyborn@lemmy.world
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        7 days ago

        I do think he confused 1 and 2 when he wrote that statement though. I actually think 2 wouldn’t have happened at all without the effects of 1.

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      6 days ago

      And the Wars of the Roses (amongst other things) set the stage for WW1. That’s just cause and effect, not some sort of profundity.

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          6 days ago

          Okay, but that’s all of history. One thing leads to another. The problem is, you can’t say what would have happened if things went differently.

          Would there have been no Nazi party if World War I never happened? Was Hitler’s rise to power in part due to his experiences in World War I and the economic crisis Germany was put in due, in part, to World War I? We have no way of knowing.

          Maybe if Victoria and Albert hadn’t married, World War I would still have happened, but been even worse because there would have been even greater enmity between the British and the Germans. We can’t know. The best we can do is write speculative fiction.

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              6 days ago

              Did you not read past the first paragraph? Everything else I wrote was about WWI and WWII. I literally talked about Hitler.

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                  6 days ago

                  Okay, then why did you say:

                  Good thing I wasn’t grabbing all of history in my statement then, just 2 plot points.

                  When I was literally discussing those two plot points?

                  I’ll paste what I said again. Maybe you’ll have a legitimate response to it?

                  Would there have been no Nazi party if World War I never happened? Was Hitler’s rise to power in part due to his experiences in World War I and the economic crisis Germany was put in due, in part, to World War I? We have no way of knowing.

                  Maybe if Victoria and Albert hadn’t married, World War I would still have happened, but been even worse because there would have been even greater enmity between the British and the Germans. We can’t know. The best we can do is write speculative fiction.

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                    6 days ago

                    Because you said that’s “all of history”, it’s not like I’m trying to link Christopher Columbus to 9/11 here. I even stated the dude mixed the wars up in another comment thread.