• WhiteHawk@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    For the love of christ, stop saying that. Every single time someone makes this comment. We. Get. It.

    • AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Do we? Because the absolutely astonishing sense of self-importance humans have would indicate otherwise.

      Other beings live here, and while humans fuck humans over in the name of greed and power, we bulldoze entire ecosystems without any consideration for the other creatures that lived here whatsoever.

      No, you’re wrong. Most humans live, act, and speak as if the entire world, hell the entire universe, should be bent to better serve ourselves exclusively.

      • grue@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        It’s a thought-terminating cliche that serves to downplay the problem because “hurr durr the animals will be okay” (even though they actually won’t since we’re in the middle of the Anthropocene mass extinction, but never mind that) and to act as a derailment tactic.

        • r1veRRR@feddit.de
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          1 year ago

          I don’t read it that way, quite the opposite. So, so many people act like this is mostly about protecting the climate or the environment or animals, not about protecting our way of life. The way so many frame it as protecting the earth makes it so easy to make it sound optional.

          But the world will be okay, it doesn’t need protecting. It’s the 8 billion humans that RELY on the world AS IT IS NOW that will be fucked. It’s human protection, not ecological protection.

        • kava@lemmy.world
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          Nature will inevitably adjust. This isn’t the first mass extinction and it won’t be the last. I’m more concerned about agriculture and how the changing climate could lead to mass starvation, refugee issues, etc. The animals can inherit the Earth after we blow ourselves up with nukes.

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        1 year ago

        Only an idiot thinks that when we say *we are destroying the planet " they literally means the planet will explode or something. It’s clear that we mean the only part of the planet that is meaningful for us, the biosphere.

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          But it’s the idiots that CONSTANTLY argue that the world will be fine. The framing of it as protection of animals/the planet/the climate makes it incredibly easy for people to pretend it’s optional, not directly related to them. This isn’t a hypothetical point, EVERY SINGLE climate discussion I’ve ever witnessed some mouthbreather has argued that “the climate will continue to exist, it doesn’t need protecting”.

          What needs protecting isn’t the planet, the ecology, the animals or plants, it’s US. It’s ENTIRELY an US problem.

        • blue_zephyr@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Which we also won’t destroy. Life on earth will adapt, but we’re making it inhospitable for ourselves.

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            Well, I guess all the life forms that are going extinct through the Holocene/anthropogene extinction event, which humans caused, don’t matter?

            Sure there will be life on earth and it will adapt, but don’t act like we’re not taking down whole families of plants and animals with us… because it’s already happening.

          • FireMyth@lemmy.one
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            1 year ago

            Look genius- we know the planet will be just fine. When ppl say we are destroying the planet we obvious (except to you) are talking about our own survival on the planet.

          • foo@programming.dev
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            1 year ago

            Again Sherlock, nobody is talking about the frame of view of random animals that may or may not be fine. We are only talking about our frame of reference.

            If you actually considered the semantics of “technically some people will still be alive but living in a mad max like apocalypse or jellyfish will be fine” means that our biosphere hasn’t been destroyed for humans you are being ridiculously pedantic.

    • DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      There are a lot of people still waking up to the situation so I think it’s worth saying even if you personally have heard it many times.