It’s one of those things where on the surface it may seem silly and goofy but if you delve down deep enough you get bad shit.
To make it abundantly clear, No Nut November was always a satirical thing. That’s how it was intended to start with and it didn’t have any of that masculinity nonsense attached to it. After it started getting traction though people started injecting in all kinds of insanity into it and it almost got completely co-opted by extreme far-right nutjobs. Rolling Stone even put out an article saying as much.
Thanks, 4Chan. Turns out there ARE consequences to certain varieties of edgy humor when you don’t know how batshit insane the other people on your website are.
“It’s just a joke bro stop calling this community bigoted” is basically the end goal of all right wing infiltration. They want to drive a wedge in a community and hiding behind humor that isn’t actually humor is incredibly powerful.
If 90 people are joking about Hitler and 10 others are pretending to be joking, then you have Nazis in your ranks. The 90 joking are just convenient cover.
One of the most valuable lessons of the internet age is the death of satire. Nothing is too stupid and ridiculous to not accidentally get true believers if you keep the joke running
I mean the origins are relevant when the person I was directly responding to originally did not make that distinction. Even if we were talking in the broader sense, the origins ALWAYS matter because it can tell you a lot about how things progress and change. The interactions with various different groups or variables. I’m going to go ahead and make sure I’m at least aware of their origins so I can say that i’m educated on the subject instead of blindly stumbling around sharing misinformation.
Also, maybe don’t jump into the middle of someone elses conversation and then try to dictate what is and isn’t relevant to it. You are not part of it and you do not get a say. I’m out.
Somebody told me it was to create awareness of testicular and prostate cancer. I know it’s also a fetish thing in the kink community (those wearing chastity devices).
It was used as a method to promote awareness but that wasn’t the original intent. It was just simply a joke that got insanely out of hand. The Chastity thing you’re talking about is actually an October thing called Locktober. Some people do carry over into November but the kink community in general uses October.
Yeah. I might not be into the kink but, I can respect that people are doing Locktober for safe, sane, and consentual pleasure-related reasons. NNN was a joke originally (like the “fap roulette” challenges of yore) but definitely subverted for some pretty nefarious reasons, using shame and sexual frustration to try to radicalize people into right-wing misogyny and violence.
Yep. I’ve not known anyone, myself included, to do Locktober for some awful reasons. No Nut November just got out of hand and next thing you know you have extremist figures going mental.
To make it abundantly clear, No Nut November was always a satirical thing. That’s how it was intended to start with and it didn’t have any of that masculinity nonsense attached to it. After it started getting traction though people started injecting in all kinds of insanity into it and it almost got completely co-opted by extreme far-right nutjobs. Rolling Stone even put out an article saying as much.
Thanks, 4Chan. Turns out there ARE consequences to certain varieties of edgy humor when you don’t know how batshit insane the other people on your website are.
“It’s just a joke bro stop calling this community bigoted” is basically the end goal of all right wing infiltration. They want to drive a wedge in a community and hiding behind humor that isn’t actually humor is incredibly powerful.
If 90 people are joking about Hitler and 10 others are pretending to be joking, then you have Nazis in your ranks. The 90 joking are just convenient cover.
the_donald was also “always” a satirical thing. Look how that went.
One of the most valuable lessons of the internet age is the death of satire. Nothing is too stupid and ridiculous to not accidentally get true believers if you keep the joke running
e.g. flat earth
I’m not saying it didn’t change. Just saying that its initial reasoning and popularity wasn’t insidious.
The origins are irrelevant because that joke is dead and now it’s just another strange right wing movement
I mean the origins are relevant when the person I was directly responding to originally did not make that distinction. Even if we were talking in the broader sense, the origins ALWAYS matter because it can tell you a lot about how things progress and change. The interactions with various different groups or variables. I’m going to go ahead and make sure I’m at least aware of their origins so I can say that i’m educated on the subject instead of blindly stumbling around sharing misinformation.
Also, maybe don’t jump into the middle of someone elses conversation and then try to dictate what is and isn’t relevant to it. You are not part of it and you do not get a say. I’m out.
2 short sentences is exhausting for you? You’re the one who turned an aside I made into a debate.
If you don’t want other people commenting on your conversations then don’t have them on public forums.
Only reason I’m interested in NNN is because I started a race against some random dude on reddit on who can lose the fastest. I’m still record holder.
Somebody told me it was to create awareness of testicular and prostate cancer. I know it’s also a fetish thing in the kink community (those wearing chastity devices).
It was used as a method to promote awareness but that wasn’t the original intent. It was just simply a joke that got insanely out of hand. The Chastity thing you’re talking about is actually an October thing called Locktober. Some people do carry over into November but the kink community in general uses October.
Yeah. I might not be into the kink but, I can respect that people are doing Locktober for safe, sane, and consentual pleasure-related reasons. NNN was a joke originally (like the “fap roulette” challenges of yore) but definitely subverted for some pretty nefarious reasons, using shame and sexual frustration to try to radicalize people into right-wing misogyny and violence.
It’s really fucking weird.
Yep. I’ve not known anyone, myself included, to do Locktober for some awful reasons. No Nut November just got out of hand and next thing you know you have extremist figures going mental.
Wasn’t No Shave November the movement that was supposed to bring cancer awareness?
Correctamundo. No idea why I said that but yeah, you’re right.
Watch them eventually try to seriously attempt no pee January
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But it’s supposed to be no nut November…