• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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    16 hours ago

    “If Russia says Nazis are bad, than Nazis must be good!”

    Liberal politics is just reaction.

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      14 hours ago

      I love it, it leads to epic blunders like having an homage to a nazi in Canada because he fought the russians.

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      15 hours ago

      It is funny because tankie thought is literal positive reaction to anything Russia and China does. Your comment shows it is also pure projection.

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        Not at all, Marxists are quite critical of Russia, for example, for being deeply socially reactionary, or China for engaging with trade with Israel, rather than sanctioning it. Marxists don’t accept prevailing western narratives surrounding enemies of the US Empire, which anti-Marxists try to simplify into simple reaction against the US Empire, rather than actually engage with the reasoning for supporting, say, China overall fronted by Marxists.

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      16 hours ago

      I said the resolution is bad, not the principle. You’re again misrepresenting something to further your own narrative.

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        15 hours ago

        So the content is the resolution is good, but its nonetheless contacted some kind of metaphysical badness unrelated to it’s content due to it being proposed by a bad guy and not a good guy.

        Maybe we can get it proposed by Israel instead, then it would be a good guy presenting it because they only invade non-white countries

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          15 hours ago

          Russia wrote it for a reason. Think for a few seconds on why that might be.

          And please stop lumping me in with the imperialist crowd. I’m anti-imperialism, but unlike some of y’all I (rhetorically) oppose all imperialism not just western imperialism.

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            13 hours ago

            Russia wrote it for a reason. Think for a few seconds on why that might be.

            Because NATO put a bunch of Nazis in its command structure and the U.S. has backed various fascists countless times in the last 80 years, so it would put the western alliance in an embarrassing spot.

            That’s like half of politics: trying to embarass your opponents into backing off various positions.

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            15 hours ago

            So the content is the resolution is good, but its nonetheless contacted some kind of metaphysical badness unrelated to it’s content due to it being proposed by a bad guy and not a good guy.

            I’m anti-imperialism, but unlike some of y’all I (rhetorically) oppose all imperialism not just western imperialism.

            “Unlike you, I believe that all lives matter, not just black ones”

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              I never said the content of the resolution is good. I haven’t read it. I’m just assuming it isn’t since Russia sponsored it. And even if it is actually good, the hypocrisy of the Russians sponsoring a condemnation of Nazism is notable.

              Just because a country is anti-American doesn’t mean it’s anti-evil. I shouldn’t need to explain this. I don’t know why I even tried. This isn’t worth it. You’re not acting in good faith. Drawing a false equivalency between “all lives matter” and “all colonialism is bad”. Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine is bad. Israel’s genocide of Palestinians is bad. America is bad. All three things can be true at once, the world isn’t black and white. Seriously what level of Reddit-brain must you have to try to say stuff like this.

              I should really just mute this whole conversation. I’m gonna look for the button.

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                I’m just assuming it isn’t since Russia sponsored it.

                Ok, I’m just going to not read your comments and assume they’re bad because your a westerner.

                the hypocrisy of the Russians sponsoring a condemnation of Nazism is notable.

                What a disgusting thing to say.

                You’re not acting in good faith.

                Can I ask a serious question? Who is it that told you idiots that any disagreement is “bad faith”? Because you all deploy this exact phrase, word for word, any time anyone disagrees with you. It’s your favourite thought terminating cliche.

                Drawing a false equivalency between “all lives matter” and “all colonialism is bad”.

                It’s a completely apt equivalence, you just don’t want it to be.

                Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine is bad. Israel’s genocide of Palestinians is bad. America is bad. All three things can be true at once, the world isn’t black and white. Seriously what level of Reddit-brain must you have to try to say stuff like this.

                What the fuck is this complete non-sequitor? Not to mention it runs counter to your position up to know (“if Russia says Nazis bad, then Nazis good”)

                the world isn’t black and white.

                Your whole argument is that Russia is bad, so anything they do is bad! That’s the most black and white argument imaginable!

                I should really just mute this whole conversation. I’m gonna look for the button.

                Google Satre’s quote about anti-Semites

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                12 hours ago

                Russia is at war with nazis currently. Of course they have the most to gain from condemning nazism.

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                  12 hours ago

                  God I wish I could’ve found the mute button, just so I could avoid hearing this bad take.

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                    8 hours ago

                    I cant find that mute button but the block option is in the three dots menu below my comment if you’re on web

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                14 hours ago

                And even if it is actually good, the hypocrisy of the Russians sponsoring a condemnation of Nazism is notable.

                Elaborate?