when you allow people into your space who nobody wants anything to do with (and specifically because they will tend to attack those people and also they believe they are subhuman)
So diva basically just straight up lied to you, I never even said what ever they’re referencing lol here:
If it was true they would have directly linked the comment
But diva is a known Tankie of .ml, lying about other users isn’t even the worst they do, here check this comm for documentation of the shenanigans .ml tankies get up to: [email protected]
People who spend all their time punching left when the US secret police are straight up disappearing people from the streets and sending them to a concentration camp should be treated like the Nazis they are, yes.
Especially coming from someone from ML; an instance run by a group that openly supports imperialism (including by capitalists that they support), white-washes genocide and supports authoritarianism.
Let me introduce you to the world of paraphrasing. That was the mantra, it has since pivoted to post-hoc scolding and gloating in the vein of: “I just fantasized about the republicans killing you”
I’ve tried searching through my inbox looking for interactions between us but wasn’t able to find anything, but my inbox is rather…extensive and there’s no inbox searching tools AFAIK lol
Considering diva just straight up lied (see below), id like to review this disagreement we had myself
I just had this weird attack of perspective, man. What the hell am I doing here? I like the idea of talking about politics and keeping up with what’s going on in the world, and bouncing ideas off people and hearing new stuff. But it seems like Lemmy in particular is just full of all these super-weird aggressive people who are wrong about everything.
I feel like there’s a certain perspective that it’s just “oh ho that’s the internet for you” but it really just suddenly seemed like a big waste of time. Like here I am really trying to explain to this dude why his MAGA-friendly instance is not popular, or to Diva why someone might want to vote for Kamala Harris thinking that would be a good thing, and for what? What am I gaining from all of this? It’s not any successful communication with the people I’m talking to specifically, I don’t think.
I just had this weird attack of perspective, man. What the hell am I doing here? I like the idea of talking about politics and keeping up with what’s going on in the world, and bouncing ideas off people and hearing new stuff. But it seems like Lemmy in particular is just full of all these super-weird aggressive people who are wrong about everything.
Lemmy is still small, it needs people to push back against these extremely aggressive types to grow, the Lemmy-verse at large is tipping away from the tankies, slowly but surely. There are very few tankie-aligned and even fewer right-wing aligned instances. On Reddit, it wasn’t nearly as bad because there were just so many people that unless you were early or on a niche subreddit, the “extremely aggressive” types were downvoted and ridiculed to oblivion already and it was big enough that it wasn’t really necessary to do so.
I feel like there’s a certain perspective that it’s just “oh ho that’s the internet for you” but it really just suddenly seemed like a big waste of time. Like here I am really trying to explain to this dude why his MAGA-friendly instance is not popular, or to Diva why someone might want to vote for Kamala Harris thinking that would be a good thing, and for what? What am I gaining from all of this? It’s not any successful communication with the people I’m talking to specifically, I don’t think.
I changed my own perspective long ago, I no longer engage with people like Diva to convince them but to convince and show the “silent lurkers” what Tankies and right-wingers really think around here. And in doing so, it goes a long way to fostering a more positive rep for the Lemmy-verse on the outside
To truly make progress though, we need bigger and louder calls for defederation of toxic instances like .ml and the rest of the triad amongst the bigger instances. Which is also helped by debating to the “silent lurkers”
You were going off because I…cracked a joke on a couple threads about .ml lmao, and then you were specifically going off because someone asked for an Eli5 of “the joke”
places like .world are also Nazi bars though
this is /u/cm0002 in case you were wondering
You’re joking, right? Or am I missing something?
So diva basically just straight up lied to you, I never even said what ever they’re referencing lol here:
If it was true they would have directly linked the comment
But diva is a known Tankie of .ml, lying about other users isn’t even the worst they do, here check this comm for documentation of the shenanigans .ml tankies get up to: [email protected]
I got confused (multiple times), but, yes. It does seem Diva is a stereotypical tankie.
Note how they also love victimizing themselves.
People who spend all their time punching left when the US secret police are straight up disappearing people from the streets and sending them to a concentration camp should be treated like the Nazis they are, yes.
Ok, I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying cm0002 is a Nazi or something like that.
I disagree with the characterization of LW, but at least now I correctly understand what you are saying. 😀
feel free to disagree with it, from where I’m standing they are, and he is
No, this is a ridiculous statement.
Especially coming from someone from ML; an instance run by a group that openly supports imperialism (including by capitalists that they support), white-washes genocide and supports authoritarianism.
That would be .world the entire last election year telling people to shut up about Palestine and vote blue
I’m an anarchist, I don’t ‘support’ any of these parties beyond having a cautious optimism seeing China execute billionaires who misbehave.
Not a single person said that.
Let me introduce you to the world of paraphrasing. That was the mantra, it has since pivoted to post-hoc scolding and gloating in the vein of: “I just fantasized about the republicans killing you”
It all makes sense now.
I’ve called them out before on their bs, but only got downvotes for it.
I’ve tried searching through my inbox looking for interactions between us but wasn’t able to find anything, but my inbox is rather…extensive and there’s no inbox searching tools AFAIK lol
Considering diva just straight up lied (see below), id like to review this disagreement we had myself
I think she was talking about a comment from me.
I couldn’t make out what her point was, but somehow I said something and she thought that you had said it.
That is HILARIOUS lmao I wasn’t even in this thread until now so ig im living rent free ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
She has def called me a Nazi though so I didn’t doubt it for a second lol
I just had this weird attack of perspective, man. What the hell am I doing here? I like the idea of talking about politics and keeping up with what’s going on in the world, and bouncing ideas off people and hearing new stuff. But it seems like Lemmy in particular is just full of all these super-weird aggressive people who are wrong about everything.
I feel like there’s a certain perspective that it’s just “oh ho that’s the internet for you” but it really just suddenly seemed like a big waste of time. Like here I am really trying to explain to this dude why his MAGA-friendly instance is not popular, or to Diva why someone might want to vote for Kamala Harris thinking that would be a good thing, and for what? What am I gaining from all of this? It’s not any successful communication with the people I’m talking to specifically, I don’t think.
Lemmy is still small, it needs people to push back against these extremely aggressive types to grow, the Lemmy-verse at large is tipping away from the tankies, slowly but surely. There are very few tankie-aligned and even fewer right-wing aligned instances. On Reddit, it wasn’t nearly as bad because there were just so many people that unless you were early or on a niche subreddit, the “extremely aggressive” types were downvoted and ridiculed to oblivion already and it was big enough that it wasn’t really necessary to do so.
I changed my own perspective long ago, I no longer engage with people like Diva to convince them but to convince and show the “silent lurkers” what Tankies and right-wingers really think around here. And in doing so, it goes a long way to fostering a more positive rep for the Lemmy-verse on the outside
To truly make progress though, we need bigger and louder calls for defederation of toxic instances like .ml and the rest of the triad amongst the bigger instances. Which is also helped by debating to the “silent lurkers”
https://lemmy.ca/comment/15444225
Oh yea I remember now lol
You were going off because I…cracked a joke on a couple threads about .ml lmao, and then you were specifically going off because someone asked for an Eli5 of “the joke”