I thought FUD was a cryptobro term.

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    white-washes genocide and support authoritarianism

    That would be .world the entire last election year telling people to shut up about Palestine and vote blue

    I’m an anarchist, I don’t ‘support’ any of these parties beyond having a cautious optimism seeing China execute billionaires who misbehave.

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      telling people to shut up about Palestine and vote blue

      Not a single person said that.

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        Let me introduce you to the world of paraphrasing. That was the mantra, it has since pivoted to post-hoc scolding and gloating in the vein of: “I just fantasized about the republicans killing you”

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          Paraphrasing, eh? Neat world! Neat word too. But I have a quick question about this… paraphrasing world of yours:

          “I just fantasized about the republicans killing you”

          Can you tell me who exactly this phrase is para’d from? Did I say that right? Either way, if you can’t, well… that’s another lie you’ve been caught in, right? What would that be?

          Three in this thread alone?

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              So, your example is some butt-hurt Hexbear mods that need to be introduced to the world of sarcasm?

              And speaking of-

              OMG! I honestly believed you though I didn’t know what paraphrasing meant!

              /s

              And for the record: Hexbear links aren’t going to be acceptable as evidence to anything other than proof that literacy isn’t an accurate representation of intelligence.

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      I won’t speak for you specifically, since we’ve never interacted, but we both know ML’s management are openly supportive of imperialism and genocide.

      You call LW users nazis, but you are more than happy to affiliate with a group that supports russian genocidal imperialism, knowingly lies about the attrocities commited by the russians and openly cheers for the russian army.

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        openly supportive of russian genocidal imperialism

        failing to carry water for the US consensus narrative on all events related to geopolitics does not mean that people automatically support the geopolitical enemies to the fullest extent.

        I outlined my position in the other reply, these servers are not really a monolith other than when it comes time to shut down bigotry

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          You talk big, yet you wish death to Ukrainians and cheer for russians to capture Ukrainian territory and eradicate Ukrainian culture.

          You’re not fooling anyone.

          EDIT: Since you’re fine with ice pick murder fantasies, let me say the following:

          I do hope one day you and your fellow tankies get to experience the life of “Donbas Cowboy”, Russell Bentley.

          Bentley’s wife, Lyudmila, then claimed that Russian soldiers from a tank battalion abducted him.

          According to the Investigative Committee, Vansyatsky, Agaltsev, and Iordanov tortured Bentley on April 8, and he died shortly afterward.

          Vansyatsky and Agaltsev are suspected of blowing up a car with Bentley’s body in it and ordering Bazhin to get rid of what was left of his remains.

          Just imagine what was going through his mind in those last moments.

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            re: death threat, For the record, I apologized to the guy and he accepted it.

            yet you wish death to Ukrainians and cheers for russians to capture Ukrainian territory and eradicate Ukrainian culture.

            I most certainly do not. You seem primed to construe anything that’s not absolute demonization as support though.

            thank you for the “radio free Europe” article I will file that away with the rest of the high quality journalism.

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              thank you for the “radio free Europe” article I will file that away with the rest of the high quality journalism.

              Tankie scum are so predictable. You’re so tied to your CIA/BIA narrative that you can’t even think straight. The RFE article cites internal russian judicial decisions which can be further cross-referenced by russian propaganda.

              Or are you saying the BIA hacked russian propaganda sources and russian judicial rulings in order to “make the RFE article seem more real”?

              I most certainly do not. You seem primed to construe anything that’s not absolute demonization as support though.

              Don’t lie. Tankie scum denies russian atrocities in Ukraine. “Bucha never happened, tens of thousands of Ukrainian civilians aren’t held in concentration camps in occupied territories, Ukrainian language and culture aren’t prosecuted in occupied territories.” I’ve had multiple tankie roaches tell me this on Lemmy.

              But the worst part is that you do this merely due to internet roleplay reasons. You don’t speak russian, you don’t speak Ukrainian. You’ve never lived in russia, you’ve never lived in Ukraine.

              You couldn’t even use common sense to figure out that stating “BIA wrote that fake article” logically does not work (even if you are a tankie), because you can cross validate it in 30 seconds via a russian language search that clearly shows russian propaganda channels saying the same thing as RFE (and you can even find the formal russian judicial ruling on government websites).

              Let’s hope Russell Bentley’s learning experience is something you and other tankie scum will experience as well!

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                You’re so tied to your CIA/BIA narrative

                What is BIA in this context?

                I was just mocking the source because it’s just a window into how you engage with the world. My dismissive response was because you felt the need to wish the same fate upon me simply by your association.

                I’m not denying the story at all, The reporting has been circulating for a while. It was a fucked up situation and the way you revel in it is gross, makes all of your accusations feel more like projections.

                But the worst part is that you do this merely due to internet roleplay reason. You don’t speak russian, you don’t speak Ukrainian. You’ve never lived in russia, you’ve never in Ukraine.

                I do have family there and I’ve visited dozens of times over the years. I’m not interested in potentially doxxing myself though, I also have nothing to prove to you. You can continue to believe whatever you want about me, you seem content to believe whatever makes you feel comfortable anyways.

                tankie scum

                tankie roaches

                this kinda talk just makes you just sound like a nazi who’s found a way to hang out in liberal spaces by vocally hating the people they hate

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                  It’s not a window into how I engage with the world. It’s an article. How you reacted to it is clearly a window into your world (no one is buying your mea culpa).

                  So you are vatnik in addition to being a tankie? Worst of both worlds. And a foreign vatnik to boot as well! Those are the most entertaining ones.

                  Here you go again with your standard tankie polemic copytext. I am not American, in Europe “liberal” means something different.

                  It is fair and just to wish harm on people who are committed to bring death and suffering to your family, to your fellow citizens. I will note throughout this whole conversation you never once made any kind of statement that perhaps the russian are doing bad things. I wonder why this would be the case?

                  Don’t start with your projection BS.

                  We both saw that you randomly fantasized about killing some random internet user with an ice pick.

                  Unlike you, I am not hiding behind anything and playing dumb. You and your tankie scum support genocide and wish me and my family and fellow citizens harm.

                  As a result, I wish that you and other tankie scum like you end up like the Donbas cowboy.

                  What exactly am I projecting here? Be clear and specific, don’t play dumb.

                  As I said, earlier let’s hope Russell Bentley’s learning experience is something you and other tankie scum will experience as well!

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                    We both saw that you randomly fantasized about killing some random internet user with an ice pick.

                    the same user admitted to being a jerk in the exchange as well, and not proud of their behavior in the runup to that very response. As far as I’m concerned that has been reconciled, even if we disagree.

                    You and your tankie scum support genocide and wish me and my family and fellow citizens harm.

                    I’m an anarchist, you are the one who declare me a tankie because at the end it’s just a pejorative, like calling me a slur. You then go on contriving positions for me to hold on your mind.

                    re: calling me vatnik, I find jingoism from any direction off-putting, but go off.

                    What exactly am I projecting here?

                    as I said in my previous post, you seem like a Nazi who has latched onto the appropriate targets for the company you keep