• Ulrich@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    3 days ago

    Uhhh nope, that’s incorrect.

    The way triangulation works is by essentially measuring distance.

    So 1 satellite distance puts you anywhere in a radius (circle) of that satellite.

    2 Satellites puts you at 1 of 2 locations where those radiuses intersect.

    3 satellites gives you a single location.

    That’s why it’s called triangulation. Tri = 3

    • notfromhere@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 days ago

      Oh boy, where do I even start? This comment is wrong in multiple ways. Let’s break it down:

      1. “The way triangulation works is by essentially measuring distance.”

        • Nope. This describes trilateration, not triangulation.
        • Triangulation uses angles, while trilateration uses distances. GPS works via trilateration.
      2. “1 satellite distance puts you anywhere in a radius (circle) of that satellite.”

        • Kind of, but missing a crucial detail:
          • A single satellite defines a sphere around itself (not just a circle—you exist in 3D space).
      3. “2 Satellites puts you at 1 of 2 locations where those radiuses intersect.”

        • Wrong. Two satellite distance spheres intersect to form a circle, not just two points.
      4. “3 satellites gives you a single location.”

        • Mostly right, but incomplete.
        • In theory, three satellites narrow it down to two possible points, but one is often out in space or somewhere unrealistic, so it can often be ruled out.
        • However, because your device lacks an atomic clock, it typically requires four satellites to synchronize time properly.
      5. “That’s why it’s called triangulation. Tri = 3”

        • Nope. GPS does NOT use triangulation.
        • The “tri” in triangulation comes from angles, not the number of satellites. GPS uses trilateration, which is based on measuring distances, not angles.

      Final Verdict

      This comment is a trainwreck of incorrect terms and flawed explanations. If they meant “trilateration,” at least part of it would make sense, but calling it “triangulation” completely ruins their credibility.

      So, in short? No, their comment is very incorrect. 🚨

      • Ulrich@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        11
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        A single satellite defines a sphere around itself (not just a circle—you exist in 3D space).

        You are not getting a 3 dimensional location. That’s why GPS coordinates only exist on 2 planes. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

        Final Verdict

        You’re not just wrong, you’re wrong AND you’re a dick about it.

        • Saik0A
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          3 days ago

          You are not getting a 3 dimensional location. That’s why GPS coordinates only exist on 2 planes. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

          Coordinates on a sphere is a 3 dimensional location. The earth isn’t flat.

          Edit: Please education yourself before you’re so confident in your own bullshit answer. https://gisgeography.com/trilateration-triangulation-gps/ and https://www.gps.gov/multimedia/tutorials/trilateration/

          Satellites broadcast a sphere, not a circle. And that sphere doesn’t land on the earth as a perfect circle for relatively obvious reason… since the ground isn’t perfect flat, nor is the earth perfectly spheroid.

          • Ulrich@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            3 days ago

            The earth isn’t flat.

            So which coordinate accounts for elevation? Latitude or Longitude?

            • Saik0A
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              2 days ago

              Lat/Long is only valid if elevation is valid. You can’t reference a lat/long that is miles into space… or beneath the crust of the earth.

                • Saik0A
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  2 days ago

                  A watch… or other simple gps device doesn’t know what the elevation is.

                  Only one of the 2 selected points in a 3 satellite setup will be valid. And your device would have no idea which one is valid without elevation knowledge or a 4th satellite. Some devices can figure it out with just 3 satellites. Many/most won’t. But ultimately it’s the same thing. You need 4 pieces of input. Either 3 satellites AND elevation. Or 4 satellites.

                  So no. I’ve not made a point “for” you. You’re just ignorant or specifically being obtuse on something you clearly don’t understand.

                  • Ulrich@feddit.org
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    2 days ago

                    A watch… or other simple gps device doesn’t know what the elevation is.

                    My point, exactly