• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 hours ago

    yeah pretty much.

    They say education is the most important thing.

    I’m inclined to agree, but we might honestly be past democracy in a post truth world, i’m not sure we deserve the rights we have.

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    This isn’t the first empire. Masses can be brainwashed. You can even have multiple layers of brainwashing, like how Republicans are extremely brainwashed, and Democrats are secondarily brainwashed to think they’re the moral opposition, while both of them unquestioningly support the undercurrent of global imperialism.

    Literally the only escape is the entire population being fully educated on the nature of politics, economics, societies, history. A people cannot realize a free and just society without completely understanding what that requires. Until then you’re all just a fish flopping around on the floor of a boat.

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    Its such a shit situation. If you want out, you generally need to get a job in another country. A job in a different country generally pays significantly less than the cost of living in most of the USA, so you need to already have a significant amount of money already saved to even consider it an option.

    Most of us are just fucking trapped.

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      And in the case of the EU you probably aren’t getting in unless you’re highly credentialed. For all their shit talking they sure hate large-scale immigration.

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      Maybe I’m missing the point, but COL in other countries is also only a fraction of the US’s. We don’t live in hunger and squalor over here, you know. Plus, to move, you won’t need significant savings.
      No, the real issue, as with all migration from high- to low-wage countries, is that you cannot easily return for retirement because you’re not going to be able to save enough for the US’s housings prices or rents.

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        the biggest things in the way here are going to be citizenship, the US has really lax citizenship most of the time, compared to a lot of other countries especially.

        And your job, assuming you don’t work in a large national business, or from home, in a way that they’re willing to accommodate.

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        Having no choice people think we can just jump ship (or I guess the pot) when they don’t realize the people who can’t do it at all because there chained to it

        For instance trans people can’t get passports or renew them meaning they have absolutely no way to leave.

        We need to stay and help the disenfranchised instead of jumping ship

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          For instance trans people can’t get passports or renew them meaning they have absolutely no way to leave.

          given long enough you can just cross the border and claim asylum

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          How so?
          Geniunely don’t understand how being trans prevents you from getting out?
          I’d assume when being asked about your sex, I’d just swallow the pride (no pun intended) and say what the sex at birth was to get the paperwork done. As soon as ones out it won’t matter as much anyway.

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            This is not the case. Trans people are being denied passports of either gender marker as officials “wait for clarification” on the new rules. Furthermore, passports are being confiscated.

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              But even in your source, which does explain the circumstances (which are bad), they mention how it needs to be under the sex that is on your certificate.
              I only see an issue with it if you are in-between getting the identification modified as the gears of beaucrarcy grind very slow (ignoring constant interruptions by unecessary policy changes)

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                I only see an issue with it if you are in-between getting the identification modified as the gears of beaucrarcy grind very slow

                Or, you know, you live in a red state that fights tooth and nail to not update that information, all in the hopes that this day would eventually come.

                Updating your vital records is a state level item, and the process will vary by state, and that’s a requirement to get it changed on your Federal passport. Please don’t forget that a large amount of states have been trying to pretend these people don’t exist, and now the federal government is trying to help make that a reality. For an example of the difficulties as reported 3 years ago:


                States requiring proof of surgery, court order or altered birth certificate to change gender marker on driver’s licenses

                Georgia.
                Guam (U.S. Territory).
                Iowa.
                Kentucky.
                Louisiana.
                Northern Mariana Islands (U.S. Territory).
                South Carolina.
                Tennessee.
                Texas.

                States requiring proof of surgery, court order or altered birth certificate to change gender marker on birth certificates

                Alabama.
                Arizona.
                Arkansas.
                Georgia.
                Guam (U.S. Territory).
                Iowa.
                Kentucky.
                Louisiana.
                Missouri.
                Nebraska.
                New Hampshire.
                North Carolina.
                North Dakota.
                Wisconsin.

                States barring residents from amending their gender designation on official documents

                Montana.
                Oklahoma.
                Tennessee.
                West Virginia


                I’ll note again that this was 3 years ago, before the massive wave of anti-trans legislation in the last couple of years.

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                  Hm ok. but again: What prevents me from just not doing the whole passport changing thing in the US and staying X/Y for now, acquiring the passport, getting out and immigrating somewhere else doing and do the whole paperwork there instead.

                  Please don’t take this as an ignorant take. I am neither a US citizen nor trans but interested and feel for my fellow friends on the other side of the pond.

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    Called my mom last night, told her to renew her passport asap.

    Most people are like “the waters warm, this is nice, what are you going on about???” And I’m like “hi yes this water is scalding hot and about to boil we need to get out!”

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        That was under the previous administration… musk is hollowing out federal jobs so I bet the wait will be tough. Especially as more frogs realize that the pot is boiling…

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          Longer wait times? B…b…b…but he’s the head of the department of government efficiency, who could’ve seen this coming!?

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    As an American who just emigrated, I guess I jumped. I can still vote from overseas, but I’m pessimistic about the future.

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        Japan. I had an offer from an EU country that logically would have been a better choice. But I couldn’t resist my inner child/weeb.

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          Do they ever harass you for leaving the designated tourist areas?

          Not bait I’m legitimately curious.

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            I don’t think I’ve known of a “designated tourist area” in Japan. I lived there for a month in some town that I doubt there’d be any foreign tourist and nobody harassed me and my friends. We were even helped by the locals and police when one of my friends lost their wallet, and they were super patient about it too.

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            No, I’ve never experienced anything like that. Even in small towns. I’m sure it happens, but I don’t think it’s common as long as you’re respectful.

            The worse thing I’ve personally seen were no foreigner signs on bars during new years eve.

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              I’ve read (in Japanese, written by Japanese people) that those places will actually welcome you in if speak Japanese and is respectful of the place and other patrons, the latter 2 conditions just like any respectable human should. It could be that they’ve put those up due to xenophobia, but there are also those that just don’t want to deal with people who don’t respect their culture.

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    This would imply that they’re not surrounded by other pots filled with water which is (varying degrees of) boiling. We don’t really have a Socialist Utopia meeting spot, let’s say.

    Beyond that, eloping requires a not insignificant amount of money (as a Romanian, I can say that homes/apartments aren’t cheap here, either, and we’re not exactly L.A.)

    And at the other end of the line, immigration’s not exactly thought of with fondness, even in Europe. Don’t forget, we’re stewing in our own pot even if the heat’s still relatively tolerable.

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      This is a problem I’m having now with my boyfriend. I want to get out of the US and he says, “Where? Everywhere’s falling to fascism right now. And it’s hard and expensive to emigrate.” It doesn’t help that he also thinks it’s not worth it to think about leaving until the water’s actually boiling and he has verified it.

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        Your boyfriend is right. Unless one of you has an in-demand technical degree or a lot of money, immigration to Western countries is going to be out of reach. That leaves you with weakened economies which are either already authoritarian, or trending authoritarian. Even if you could get to a place like Europe, far-right parties emboldened by their new U.S. support are rising in popularity and receiving centrist support in places like France and Germany.

        There is no green field to relax in while the rest of the world collapses. You’ll have to fight to prevent the slide to fascism wherever you go.

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          True - it’s the rising tide right now and probably for humanity’s future since we’re on a sinking ship globally. I do have the benefit of working for a global company and a boss who’s already told me I can transfer to whichever country I pick that they operate in. But he’s not as optimistic for his own job needs, and it’s still about choosing a country that could possibly just let us die in peace before it also goes to shit.

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        Yeah most people were like “I’m moving to Canada!” Ignoring the fact that the person most likely to be PM in a couple months is also fully a Musk shill. Europe is pushing right-wing and the UK’s been down bad for a while. Maybe Australia or New Zealand?

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          The Scandanavian countries currently look the safest to me. I think Iceland would be nearly ideal, in a lot of ways. but I worry that they may be annexed by one of the larger powers as things get uglier.

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            Yes I was gonna say Scandinavian countries too but I have heard of a lot of institutional and general racism there (although where isn’t there that right now…). Probably still a top choice though when it comes to run of the mill racism vs full on Nazis I guess.