Summary

Pope Francis criticized Donald Trump’s mass deportation plans, calling them “a disgrace” that unfairly punish vulnerable individuals.

Speaking on an Italian talk show, Francis argued such measures fail to solve underlying issues and conflict with principles of justice and inclusion.

He also congratulated Trump on his inauguration, urging him to promote a just society free of hatred and exclusion.

U.S. Catholic leaders echoed the pope’s concerns, citing Catholic teachings on protecting human dignity and welcoming migrants, despite national security challenges.

    • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      Excommunicate the bastard

      He isn’t a member of the Roman Catholic Church. They excommunicate their own, not Protestants. Or, indeed, people who pretend to be Protestant.

      Those people are inherently excommunicated, which is to say not allowed to participate in the sacraments of the Roman Catholic church, since they aren’t members.

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    11 hours ago

    Guys. The head of a pedophile cult has the moral high ground on trump. Seriously, not kidding here.

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    12 hours ago

    How about you tell him it goes against the teachings of Christ? That’s supposed to mean something to his followers.

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      The pope is too “woke” for many Catholics, whose religion dictates that the pope is always right whether they like it or not because god. Awkward place to be in, but it doesn’t seem to stop them

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        religion dictates that the pope is always right whether they like it or not because god

        While Catholics do have a lot of wacky beliefs, papal infallibility is somewhat more limited than this. It only applies when the pope makes an ex cathedra statement, so he would have to state this in a much more specific and formal manner to be considered undisputable doctrine.

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      8 hours ago

      I wish that would affect them. Even just to pause and reflect. They won’t. It hasn’t been about the teachings of Christ for a long time.

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    He also congratulated Trump on his inauguration, urging him to promote a just society free of hatred and exclusion.

    Wishful thinking.

    I’ll also bet Catholics were more likely to support Trump in the first place.

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      14 hours ago

      Catholics are historically a strong Democratic voter base. The last two decades have seen that shift to a near 50/50 split as blue collar white voters (of which Catholics make up a sizable portion) have shifted rightward dramatically.

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        And I assume it’s the abortion issue influencing this. Otherwise Catholics would be solidly democrat. It’s the Protestant Christians that tend to be solid republican.

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          Yeah, it’s a large part. Although, anecdotally most of the Catholics I know tend to be pro-choice (this is probably just selection bias, though).

          Interestingly, the Church’s anti-abortion stance is doctrinal, but has not been proclaimed by the papacy in an ex cathedra statement or as an essential matter of the faith. A lot of Catholics treat it as one of their faith’s “matters of conscience” and form their own personal opinions on the matter.

          Roman Catholicism finds itself in a very awkward place with regard to abortion. The Church itself was the creator of the concept of Social Justice and many of its faithful (rightfully, imo) seek to apply a similar philosophy to the topic of abortion.

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            Just to add to that, abortion is legal in the “4 Christian kingdoms” (France, Italy, Spain and Portugal)

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    Pretty sure the prosperity gospel and rapture fetish guys don’t listen to the pope, and those are the guys pulling Trump’s strings.

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    https://zenit.org/2024/08/29/vatican-citys-immigration-law-one-of-the-strictest-in-europe/

    Vatican City’s immigration law, one of the strictest in Europe

    In May 2023, Pope Francis approved a new Fundamental Law for the Vatican City State, reinforcing strict criteria for citizenship and residency. This law stipulates that Vatican citizens include the Pope, cardinals residing in the state, and individuals whose roles are essential to the Vatican’s functions. Residency, similarly, is granted under tight conditions and can be revoked at any time, underscoring the transient nature of living within the Vatican. Marriage and family ties offer no guarantees for continued residency, with the law stating that permissions for spouses and children cease under specific circumstances, such as annulment or separation. Furthermore, children of Vatican citizens lose their citizenship upon reaching adulthood, unless specific conditions are met.

    So now we have Trump aiming to score political points by trying to project an image of restrictive immigration policy while continuing to run permissive policy and the Pope aiming to score political points by trying to project an image of supporting permissive immigration policy while running restrictive immigration policy.

    EDIT: I see that someone else pointed out the same thing.

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      Vatican City is literally an office complex with a garden and a plaza with a whopping 764 residents in attached worker housing. They could enforce the same thing even if they were not sovereign.

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    15 hours ago

    Hahahahahahahahaha, a Trump campaign free of hate. That’s about as likely as a Catholic Church free of kid fuckers.

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    17 hours ago

    Now now, I am sure he can find it in him and entourage to provide them some tender, loving pastoral care.