• Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    It is always suspicious when someone who claims doing shrooms/experienced something first hand is when they fully understood empathy for someone else.

    Ok so like you had understood all that deeper nuance and meaning that would require months if not years of cognitive self work to identify struggle and develop respect and compassion for those around you and you mean to say the ONLY thing holding you back was observation?

    Like you couldn’t even take the half step to imagine it even for a second on your own?

    It’s like when someone claims their behaviour and emotions are just ‘out of control’ leading to acting abusive to their loved ones but then knows how to put on a face when company comes over.

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      You should get a sober companion and try shrooms. It more or less overclocks your brain. But because brains are relational, overclocking effectively means making more connections (observations)

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        I wouldn’t call it overclocking so much as changing the way you think, and making it easier to separate thought from emotion. Or at least that was an observation I made about what was different. I could think about things that were normally very emotionally charged without those same emotions getting in the way, kinda like being able to skip the stages of grief when thinking about things many people are in denial about without even thinking about it.

        I also believe that it reduces the barrier between the conscious and subconscious, allowing more things the subconscious “figured out” to bubble up to conscious thought. “Figured out” in quotes because while the subconscious is powerful, it is not infallible. There might also be a sense of connection between the “a-ha!” feeling of figuring out something profound and random thoughts going through your conscious mind, making normal or dumb shit seem important and groundbreaking in the moment.

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      It’s not so much about understanding empathy. It’s basically poisoning yourself, having a shit time, such a shit time that they end up being able to appreciate basic things. Not just in themselves but in others.

      It’s hard to do things, it’s hard to focus, and your voice becomes louder with raw emotions and low inhibition.

      So you realize how amazing people as a being are, you appreciate everything that makes life work.

      However it’s fleeting, rapidly fleeting. It is a moment. You have to learn from it and detach from it.

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      Two questions:

      Did you grow up in what you’d consider an emotionally healthy and open atmosphere?

      Secondly, have you ever tripped properly?

      The first one is because if the answer is “yes”, then it might be hard imagining that sort of revelation even if you do trip. If it’s “no” on the other hand, I am curious whether you’ve tripped on an amount you felt was “properly high” and whether you did it with people you trusted at the time?