• TheRealKuni@lemmy.world
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    None of its sequels beat Diablo II’s greatness.

    I dunno man. I think people have a lot of nostalgia for Diablo II. I didn’t play it that much when I was younger (parents wouldn’t let me buy it because satan or some shit), though I did manage to borrow a friend’s copy for a month or so. Absolutely loved it, but it was hard.

    Recently got the Switch version and tried to play through. If you don’t have a plan for your build, and you don’t know where to get good items, it can be extremely frustrating trying to progress. And you have limited respecs. And every time you die you risk losing all of your stuff if you can’t get back to it.

    Diablo II was amazing for its time, but it lacks a lot of the quality of life improvements that make Diablo III and Diablo IV (after updates) better to play, IMO.

    (Don’t get me wrong, D3 and D4 needed serious help when they launched, but both have gotten pretty awesome updates since launch. D4 season 4 especially breathed wonderful life into that game.)

    Edit: Also this article is talking about Diablo ONE, not Diablo II.

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      4 months ago

      Whole heartedly agree D4 last season was an absolute banger probably my favorite Diablo to date

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        4 months ago

        I’m enjoying season 5 quite a bit, too. The story is definitely leading into the expansion, and I really like the simplification of Varshan summons (although I don’t understand why they’re still having the parts we now turn into Malignant Hearts drop rather than just having Malignant Hearts).

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      (Don’t get me wrong, D3 and D4 needed serious help when they launched, but both have gotten pretty awesome updates since launch. D4 season 4 especially breathed wonderful life into that game.)

      I’m going to be a stick in this mud. And I suspect I might get downvoted for my D3 opinions… but hear me out.

      D3 was BETTER at launch than it is now. Yes it needed work… but I think D3 was better in its original state than it is now (though both were “shit” comparatively to D2). They changed too much shit too quickly. The game became dumb after most of those changes.

      D4 I played the beta, hoping that it would be a return to older blizzard mentalities… and it just wasn’t it for me at all. My cousin wanted me to play again more recently… I played a few hours under his shit to check it out again (about 100 hours because I know that end game matters)… I still don’t see any of that original captured lightning. It’s still super uninspired and boring.

      D1 was amazing… D2 literally captured magic. It’s been downhill since from my point of view. Especially with Blizzard becoming actiblizzion and become complete and utter crap in of themselves.

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        I won’t downvote you for having an opinion on a game that doesn’t align with mine. Diverse thought is what makes conversation interesting!

        I suspect part of the issue is that what D3 and D4 are is significantly different from what D2 was. Story-wise I think they’re all about the same level of “good but not amazing,” but in terms of gameplay they differ a lot. Largely because D3 and D4 came so much later in the evolution of the ARPG genre.

        D2 is much slower paced, more difficult, requires much more careful play. D3 and D4, in my experience, are mostly about moving fast and getting the most and biggest numbers on the screen. Not that there isn’t difficulty available in D3 and D4, but that difficulty is very different.

        D3 and D4 almost feel like a different genre, so if you go into them expecting more of the same feel as D2, it can be disappointing.

        Of course my position on this could be because I’ve had much more experience with 3 and 4 than I’ve had with 2.