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  • While everything you say is true, it’s not all scornful.

    Some folks work 8-16hrs a day and if they don’t, their child will cry in hunger, the lights get shut off, and immediate needs get difficult.

    It’s not all about TV and fast food, it’s about the bottom layer or two of Maslow’s Heirarchy.

    It’s why we had riots post George Floyd. People had time (off work) alongside an unemployment check (no scorn as I type that, just laying out some of the contributing variables that made it so.). Hell, lack of social interaction may have brought folks out to where other people were as well.

    The root reason can be noble as fuck, but without the right set of circumstances that allows for some assurance of not losing job, roof, health care and such, it ain’t happening, at least not to any effective scale.


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    9 months ago

    This is a leadership problem. The problem really does need to be solved at the top.

    The reality is most working class cannot just stop, unless handed a practical alternative because stopping would mean not going to work, not earning income, and being rendered homeless. Likely living in their car first which would put oil consumption right back in play.

    Whatever alternative you’re thinking of that the working class might be able to achieve as an individual probably has a buy-in cost. Given the even greater number of folks living paycheck to paycheck in the last two years, that buy-in isn’t a plausible ask.

    Sucks. But here we are. Find a cost free (to the working class individual) solution that doesn’t interrupt the 5-6 day/wk work schedule or require any extra costs or moving and you’ll solve it. Until then, working class folks are going to do what they must to keep the lights on and the water running, and that’s usually going to be commuting to work in a gas consuming vehicle. As such, the solution needs to come from the top, not the bottom.

    Earnest question. Is there enough lithium on the planet to turn around every vehicle in the United States to electric? Assume infrastructure for charging. Even then, do we even have the lithium, cobalt, manganese, nickel, and graphite or whatever else electric vehicle batteries need for it?




  • If you live remote, say, an hour or more from real shopping and such it’s the way to get fast delivery on anything, though Walmart does ok with this, though their “fast” is fairly unreliable. (Great for front door delivery of kitty litter, dog food, etc)

    But no, most people don’t need it because most people don’t live remote.


  • How to then pay child care to work that part time gig. Odds are good the cost of childcare would exceed part time unskilled labor income.

    There’s a lot of assumption here re entitlement. Ideally everyone should have housing. Ideally, everyone who engages a contract to loan out use of their stuff for money should either get the money or get their stuff back. If there’s no rent to be had, great, give that persons belongings back.

    My point is there’s impact on both. Being dismissive of either party who can no longer pay bills is what misses the point.

    The landlord IS entitled to rent while you’re in their property. That’s the contract.

    If you want to call housing a right, which is an ideal I would love to see realized in a practical, actionable way, then the onus should not be on the back of any single private citizen making loan of their property, but in those who collect 22-32% of our incomes already.

    That piece, the responsibility of providing housing to citizens, regardless of capacity to pay rent for a loan, would go higher up the chain.

    Punishing a private citizen for engaging a rental contract on the landlord side, out of spite, because housing should be a right but isn’t is not the way to solve the problem but only works to not only create bigger problems (including higher rent…a spite response to that spite) but is just another version of private citizens fighting one another instead of fighting up.




  • All true. But what’s also true is paying a mortgage with rental income. It’s why some folks found themselves out anyway as the house was sold. When a landlord is backed into a corner financially, this is their answer.

    What is also an answer is rentals sitting vacant out of squatting fear. I found this often while travel nursing. Landlords who would rent to me for 3+ months, but only because I’m temporary and can show them I already have a home. When folks stop honoring the contract to pay for the shit they’re borrowing, less inventory is going to be a very real outcome.

    Consider. Your monthly income is 4 rentals at $1500 each, minus expenses. Property tax. Income tax. Maintenance. Possibly a water/sewage bill. One stops paying. Then 2. Enter legal expenses. Your current mortgage where you’re living is still due. Managing it and providing your own childcare is your full time job.

    There’s this whole ethos that there are no people involved on the landlord side and there can be no financial struggle from anyone with a landlord title.

    That and there’s a very simple fact of it’s not your shit. You’re borrowing someone else’s things under contract.

    I agree it’s not ideal, but systemic housing change comes from several steps above a landlord. She’s just someone with extra shit she can lend out for a fee. Punishing her in the meantime like she owes you something, after making property available for use so someone can have a home, not cool. She doesn’t owe you rent or a home.