Well? Do you have any grapes?
3 hostages per week for 6 weeks in return for an immediate withdrawal of all Israeli forces and a full end to the war.
In other words: 18 hostages, some of whom might be dead, and 114 who would never be returned.
This was not a minor change that could possibly be construed as testing which terms would be acceptable. This was a deliberate attempt to sabotage negotiations and produce a headline of “Hamas agrees to ceasefire” to avoid US pressure on Qatar to kick out Hamas leadership.
AP decided this was not headline worthy:
Concerns still loom large — the pier was attacked Wednesday, the U.N. official said, as four high-ranking U.N. officials were visiting the site. The military said the mortar fire from Gaza militants forced the officials to take shelter, but no one was killed or harmed.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-aid-port-eb8a701b3a7dc8f946422c04323ff913
IDI are vocal in their criticism of Netanyahu, but their statistical methods tend to hold up. They answer your question pretty succinctly:
We found that a very large majority of the total sample (89%) think that Hamas bears a great deal of responsibility for the suffering of Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip.
And also:
we asked: “Given the current circumstances, is Israel’s leadership is doing its utmost to secure the release of the hostages?” We found that slightly more than half of the Jewish respondents think or are certain that the leadership is doing all it can to bring the hostages home. Only a small minority of Arab respondents concur.
That is legitimately one of the most level-headed replies I’ve read here in the last few months. Kudos.
Two things I want to add:
Hamas and Hezbollah have been launching near daily rocket attacks on civilian targets for over 6 months now. This attack is larger than the usual daily salvos, but still smaller than what Hamas launched on the first day.
It will be incredibly interesting to see if they continue to launch rockets after Iron Beam is deployed operationally with a marginal cost of interception far lower than the cost of a rocket or drone.
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Our CEO got wind of this and said as a matter of policy everyone is switching to Linux unless they have a good reason (needing excel for financial reports is a good reason). The two new hires who had been setting up their dev environment for over a week at that point were the trigger for this.
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Bluntly - step outside lemmy and you’ll see plenty.
There’s little point for even trying to discuss it here - that died with the stickied post about the ICJ ruling and a mod who joined in rather than preventing hate speech.
I doubt the intelligence they transferred is only about the 12, given the size and immediacy of the reaction. Those are the ones they were able to most easily prove using Hamas’ own footage of October 7th.
My guess is they passed a list with a lot more than 12 to each of those countries, and said “watch how many they fire”.
Bottom line is that it isn’t in Israel’s best interests to stop all aid - they want to avoid a true humanitarian crisis (as opposed to the current threat of one) to achieve the war goals: return the hostages and destroy Hamas. UNRWA is best positioned to provide aid, but the proof on the ground is that they aren’t distributing that aid effectively at all and people are suffering as a result.
It is extremely coincidental the director of UNRWA announced they terminated the employment of 9 employees during the ICJ hearing.
Almost like he was trying to bury the news.
Sounds like Hamas gave their answer:
At least 10 rockets fired from Gaza toward central Israel, no injuries reported
Cynical take: maybe don’t employ terrorists
Real take: UNRWA staffers will be busy scrubbing their socials for the next week instead of actually handing out aid. Of course, they aren’t exactly distributing the aid anyways so I guess it will make fuckall difference. They’ll complain about it and blame all their troubles on it anyways. Bottom line is that aid won’t get to the people who need it until Hamas stops preventing it from reaching those in need.
Except immediate access to the means isn’t actually part of it. They attempted to ethnically cleanse the area around Gaza, and publicly stated that one of their goals with the rocket fire was to empty the city of Ashkelon. They don’t get a pass because they failed to fully succeed.
Fourth.
The UN shouldn’t be employing genocidal terrorists.
I wonder how long it will take for Israel to file a countersuit against Palestine for their failure to prevent genocidal statements.
There’s plenty of room to have the ICJ force the UN to designate Hamas, PFLP, PIJ, Hezbollah, and others as genocidal terrorist organizations that cannot receive any UN funding or have their members employed by the UN. UNRWA would have to fire half their employees, but that’s not a bad thing.
Don’t underestimate people who have a vested interest in one side of a story and are willing to sacrifice anything to push that agenda.
That and the danger that a group will take their status and abuse it to push a particular agenda despite evidence to the contrary. At that point they’re not fact checking - they’re actively pushing disinformation.
Well? Do you have any grapes?