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  • I’m sure you are probably trying to be critical about the weak intelligence that took us into Iraq in 2003… But you have just dove face first into the stupid end of the pool here bud.

    It’s a very well documented fact that Iraq produced shit tons of WMD… The vast majority of it being stored still at the Muthanna Chemical Complex (MCC) which was relatively recently seized by ISIS a few years back… Many of which died after becoming exposed to the various chemical weapons that are still there, improperly stored, and leaking all over the environment…

    It’s never been false that Iraq had WMDs… What was false was that they had begun producing them again. It wasn’t as farfetched as you are trying to make it seem.




  • No dude… Nothing like that… Israel has made plenty of mistakes, especially in the past, and this is an extremely complex issue.

    To answer your first question in terms of casualty counts. The very first thing is that casualty counts are very commonly over/under inflated, especially during times of conflict. There are many reasons you may want to over inflate or deflate your numbers. But honestly it is really difficult to take casualty rates at face value. Let’s say we take it for what it is and its skewed. Now we run straight into a philosophical conundrum that is probably much to big to effectively argue through on the internet.

    Your philosophical position on about a dozen or so moralistic arguments are going to shape your ultimate decision on where you stand in terms of casualty imbalances.

    So I will skip all that and give you some of the things that I believe would bring me to your side.

    1. If HAMAS releases all of the remaining hostages and surrenders their leadership to stand trial in a neutral international court, and Israel continues to pursue it’s offensive operations.
    2. If Israel remains present in gaza following the restoration of peace.




  • I have no clue what you are defending.

    Also that’s the silliest shit I’ve ever heard. A tamir interceptor is designed for the interception of rockets, artillery, and mortars. Just consider what the design of a rocket with such a task specific purpose would need to be designed to do. Think about how it would move, how it would sound, what the warhead is designed to do.

    Really think this through please. Because most people here in Lemmy thought the rocket that hit the hospital (which ended up actually being the parking lot) and killed those 900 people (which actually ended up being ~300) was a US JDAM.

    You actually believe that a low yield… Maybe 20lb NEW warhead designed for shrapnel dispersal fired at the sky and then malfunctioning and falling back to the ground… Would have the same devastation, velocity, and angle of attack as a missile people reasonably, but still mistakeningly thought was a 500lb NEW Air to Surface JDAM.

    You could literally just use your own eyes and go look for videos of what it looks like for the tamir to explode in the air and compare that to the massive incendiary fireball that came from the HAMAS rocket and you would immediately know how insane that theory is.

    And then I hope you walk away from that with just a little bit of skepticism and shame because you are guzzling the Kool aid bud.





  • For what it is worth, today Netanyahu is exceptionally unpopular among more secular Israelis.

    Additionally Lehi, is only one example of Israelis organizations that have committed terroristic atrocities against Palestine over the years. The Kach, and later Kahane Chai are examples of Israeli terrorist organizations with similar objectives as well… At least they were, until the Biden administration decided to remove their terrorist designation last year. The Jewish Defense League which committed attacks against Americans in the 80’s is another.

    Plenty of awful in the world to go around…



  • I provided data specifically to that point to allow anyone to read further… Looks like you skipped that step. You also skipped over the fact that I was specifically talking about the Palestinian leadership of that era, which I purposefully and intentionally differentiate from the Palestinian population as a whole. Most of the general population of Israelis and Palestinians are sick of the conflicts their leadership continuously escalate and in general, both sides would prefer to seek long term peace.

    You claim that I’m framing with our context… but it would appear you completely skipped the context provided and reframed critical components of the data that was provided to fit your own bias.