Is that website legit? I’ve only ever seen https://www.deepseek.com/

And I would personally recommend downloading from HuggingFace or Ollama

It’s only a proposed bill (thankfully), but definitely one to keep an eye on.

Good points. I do believe Bitwarden is open-source though, so it can probably be forked off into a version that doesn’t host data in the US.

I’ve already made this a separate post, but I do think it is very relevant to this. You can already start finding alternatives to US-centralized software and digital services, and these two sites are a great start:

https://switching.software/

https://european-alternatives.eu/alternatives-to

Check out https://f-droid.org/en/

https://makertube.net/ is the PeerTube instance that I’ve been using, and it’s been great.

Thanks for heads up! I’ve shared that link to my circles

Okay thanks, will do that in the future

I was playing this whole thing out in my head, and trying to justify the confidence of Trump and pals with such seemingly stupid moves. The only thing I can think of is that they believe that the money they will save (steal) from the government cuts, etc, will make up for the huge losses from the tariffs. And then they would have to believe that their internal AI development is at a point where they can overpower every other nation on earth, and so they don’t need those international relations anymore. I mean, technically every single Tesla in the world is a camera for Elon, and a huge percentage of internet traffic goes through US servers.

But then I think, even if they do have all of these advantages, China seems to be catching up pretty quickly, is allied with over 50% of the planet through BRICS, has protected itself from their technological expansion. This is not even including that most other countries in the world will probably want to distance themselves from the US if this keeps up.

Either I’m in denial, or it really is just Trump and Elon are being blinded by their overinflated egos.

Yeah I was wondering about that. Is there another sub that you would recommend?

You know, if the mainstream news spent this amount of oxygen explaining that it can be downloaded in various sizes and run securely, the whole world would be in a much better situation.

I am not saying that China don’t do some of the things they are accused of, but the amount of anti-China fear in Western nations is only hurting ourselves.

This is true. However, Proton’s big sell is that they can be trusted to be truthful about what is safe and what is not safe for your privacy.

I think given the context of the CEO’s personal bias towards current US Republicans, and given that those Republicans are aggressively anti-China, when Proton releases an article warning of a successful Chinese AI, and seemingly purposefully leaves out the part about how people are already running it securely, it starts raising some important questions about their alignment.

Given that you can download Deepseek, customize it, and run it offline in your own secure environment, it is actually almost irrelevant how people feel about China. None of that data goes back to them.

That’s why I find all the “it comes from China, therefore it is a trap” rhetoric to be so annoying, and frankly dangerous for international relations.

Compare this to OpenAI, where your only option is to use the US-hosted version, where it is under the jurisdiction of a president who has no care for privacy protection.

Sorry for confusion guys - here’s the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ieonxv/comment/maa0dcx/

They actually can’t. Being open-source, it’s already proliferated. Apparently there are already over 500 derivatives of it on HuggingFace. The only thing that could be done is that each country in the West outlaws having a copy of it, like with other illegal materials. Even by that point, it will already be deep within business ecosystems across the globe.

Nup. OpenAI can be shut down, but it is almost impossible for R1 to go away at this point.

and it’s open-source!