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Cake day: July 3rd, 2023

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  • Isn’t it still kind of the same thing though?

    Star Trek calls that “matter stream” energy your “pattern”. Pattern sounds a lot like Information. Data. Which is very easy to transmit and duplicate. Data can also be lost or corrupted.

    So it’s as if they convert all your atoms to a file, then FTP your file to somewhere else where the technology turns your pattern back into matter.

    “You” can’t exist as just data, so at that point you’re already dead. I think…

    There are episodes where your pattern is stuck in the pattern buffer. You’re only information being stored at that point.



  • “Soul conceit” is the right term here. The belief humans can’t seem to shake that I am more than just the sum of my parts.

    I don’t know if I have a soul or if my consciousness is really just electric meat. But it seems that if I am more than the sum of my parts, the soulless me that comes out the other side will just be “my parts” and will be obviously different than the original me.

    If we really are just our atoms, and the technology can be trusted to reliably replicate me atom for atom on the other side then there’s nothing to be afraid of. The original you hasn’t died, it’s just ceased to exist. No big deal. The clone of you is also you, so you still exist.




  • Fair question.

    I’m assuming that if your soul really is “you” then a soulless clone of you that is identical to you down to every atom, but had no soul, would be bad.

    I don’t know if that means your soulless clone would just be an instinct driven animal, or maybe just an evil version of you that immediately grows a goatee. I don’t know what function your soul actually performs. But at some point, maybe not immediately, a bunch of soulless clones walking around would be noticed.

    Maybe? (Or maybe not?)


  • Well, if the technology actually existed, it would solve that whole “soul” question.

    We would know pretty quickly if we transported humans and they came out the other side as soulless aberrations because their original just got killed.

    So yeah, I would 100% use it after it first proved once and for all that the sum of our consciousness really is all the synapses and signals and grey matter in our heads. Because if so then what does it matter if your original matter has been erased and then recreated. Your clone is just as much you as you are you at that point.



  • Yeah…getting older is why this bullshit happens.

    I used to have deep, deep sleep and could sleep until 10am if my schedule permitted.

    After I hit my 40s I always wake up at 5-6am. Always. Still tired, just can’t fall back to sleep. Hate it.

    I think those “up early” Dads and Grandpas are full of crap. They want to sleep in too, but their stupid old bodies won’t let them, so they act like the’re so awesome for being up early. At, least, that’s what I do…