Depending on the group/team/organization, physical presence makes a huge difference.
Even though I can work from home at will, I still go to the office a lot, about 60%-70% of my time is there. Physical presence just makes a lot of things easier, and it makes teams more cohesive. I can’t imagine spending less time at the office - those random hallway conversations make a world of difference. If you’re not there for the convo, they’ll tap someone else, not by design or intention, just by that person being in front of them.
Now a call center? Maybe not so much, though I was once on a call center team and the ability to tap a teammate on the shoulder was a big help. Much better than using chat tools. So it really depends on the organization.
And then there’s management that need you there to justify their role. That’s just a poorly managed company, when senior management permits that (though some of them need their own staff count to justify their roles).
60-70% seems nuts to me. 10%-20% feels about right to me. That’s a day every week or two. Builds cohesion and lets you do some effective brainstorming sessions, and then the rest of the time you do actual work far more efficiently. I mean you do you, but I thought I was suffering from lack of office time, but that’s way too far in the other direction for me.
It’s been 5 years and 3 jobs since I’ve been to an office. My last job I honestly don’t even know what state my job was based out of. That’s a little too disconnected. But just a little.
It totally is job dependent. I have had WFH since 2009. Mostly Engineering CAD work and design feasibilities. Some peoole needed the office interaction for learning, but I already had 20 years experience so I really didn’t need input until design reviews.
That role changed to more consulting in 2015 and I had to be onsite to learn the clients process and products, and get differing views from each “expert”. Since COVID WFH i have been solo at home again. I get way more accomplished without random coworker hellos and idle chatter interrupting my flow.
It’s a way to filter out people, for good or ill.
Depending on the group/team/organization, physical presence makes a huge difference.
Even though I can work from home at will, I still go to the office a lot, about 60%-70% of my time is there. Physical presence just makes a lot of things easier, and it makes teams more cohesive. I can’t imagine spending less time at the office - those random hallway conversations make a world of difference. If you’re not there for the convo, they’ll tap someone else, not by design or intention, just by that person being in front of them.
Now a call center? Maybe not so much, though I was once on a call center team and the ability to tap a teammate on the shoulder was a big help. Much better than using chat tools. So it really depends on the organization.
And then there’s management that need you there to justify their role. That’s just a poorly managed company, when senior management permits that (though some of them need their own staff count to justify their roles).
did a realtor write this?
Those quotes aren’t in the parent comment?
The first quote block refers to what is mentioned in the OP article, and the 2nd is an exaggerated summary of the parent comment.
My issue is that the parent comment is taking imo a lenient stance towards something vile happening
60-70% seems nuts to me. 10%-20% feels about right to me. That’s a day every week or two. Builds cohesion and lets you do some effective brainstorming sessions, and then the rest of the time you do actual work far more efficiently. I mean you do you, but I thought I was suffering from lack of office time, but that’s way too far in the other direction for me.
It’s been 5 years and 3 jobs since I’ve been to an office. My last job I honestly don’t even know what state my job was based out of. That’s a little too disconnected. But just a little.
What a bot response.
It totally is job dependent. I have had WFH since 2009. Mostly Engineering CAD work and design feasibilities. Some peoole needed the office interaction for learning, but I already had 20 years experience so I really didn’t need input until design reviews. That role changed to more consulting in 2015 and I had to be onsite to learn the clients process and products, and get differing views from each “expert”. Since COVID WFH i have been solo at home again. I get way more accomplished without random coworker hellos and idle chatter interrupting my flow.