The privacy-focused messaging app arose from a fringe culture that emphasized individual autonomy and skepticism of authority. As it tries to go mainstream, can it escape its roots?
The fact that signal uses phone numbers as it’s primary identifier seriously undermines their privacy claims. AIM with both parties using OMEMO was more private and secure
If you are required to give them information that they can use to figure out who you are, it’s not anonymous.
So if you are on normal post-paid cell phones, where you have given them your real info, or use a credit to pay for it with your name on it, etc. that means you aren’t anonymous.
So when super secret drug lord is caught, they can figure you were talking to this drug lord and charge you, because they have his end of the communications and can verify with your cell provider who YOU are.
Privacy just means they don’t know what you are saying. They may know you are communicating with drug lord but not what you are saying.
If you are required to give them information that they can use to figure out who you are, it’s not anonymous.
So if you are on normal post-paid cell phones, where you have given them your real info, or use a credit to pay for it with your name on it, etc. that means you aren’t anonymous.
So when super secret drug lord is caught, they can figure you were talking to this drug lord and charge you, because they have his end of the communications and can verify with your cell provider who YOU are.
Privacy just means they don’t know what you are saying. They may know you are communicating with drug lord but not what you are saying.
The fact that signal uses phone numbers as it’s primary identifier seriously undermines their privacy claims. AIM with both parties using OMEMO was more private and secure
privacy != anonymity
It blows my mind that people still do not understand this.
Could you explain the difference? Is WhatsApp a good privacy I’m? And if not what exactly makes it bad?
If you are required to give them information that they can use to figure out who you are, it’s not anonymous.
So if you are on normal post-paid cell phones, where you have given them your real info, or use a credit to pay for it with your name on it, etc. that means you aren’t anonymous.
So when super secret drug lord is caught, they can figure you were talking to this drug lord and charge you, because they have his end of the communications and can verify with your cell provider who YOU are.
Privacy just means they don’t know what you are saying. They may know you are communicating with drug lord but not what you are saying.
You can have neither, one or the other, or both
So, signal is as private as WhatsApp and as matrix (according to some people it keeps rooms you join and many other metadata unencrypted)?
If you are required to give them information that they can use to figure out who you are, it’s not anonymous.
So if you are on normal post-paid cell phones, where you have given them your real info, or use a credit to pay for it with your name on it, etc. that means you aren’t anonymous.
So when super secret drug lord is caught, they can figure you were talking to this drug lord and charge you, because they have his end of the communications and can verify with your cell provider who YOU are.
Privacy just means they don’t know what you are saying. They may know you are communicating with drug lord but not what you are saying.
You can have neither, one or the other, or both
That’s why I use matrix. No phone number.
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