Speaking as a Dutch person, our infrastructure just isn’t made for cars this size. People basically need to enlarge their driveways to park something like this. So if you need to park a car like this it’s almost impossible. That would stop most people from getting one, except the type of person that does buy one…
Yup. I get you and most certainly don’t hold it against you. Me and my F350 king cab diesel 4x4. And before anyone gets their asses up on their shoulders, this is my last vehicle god willing. And it was my spouses, and they needed it for their job and also here where we live on a two rut dirt road that’s not county maintained, where at least one storm a year blows down trees across it, that we then have to remove ourselves (though it’s just me now, having to do this), plus it floods yearly, so I need four wheel drive because the ground turns to peanut butter and stays that way for good month after it’s stopped flooding, and haul in materials to then fix the road, and also to port canoes and John boats between the flood waters, just boat in and out when the flood waters are too high. Also hauling in drinking water and groceries because I don’t leave the home more than twice a month (emphasis on that: so that truck doesn’t go anywhere all that much now), and also hauling off garbage to the county dump. Also hauling materials for constant home repair because all you can have out here are wooden homes up on stilts (flooding again and also storms), and even the best pressure treated, stained and sealed lumber rots, sooner vs later, when you’re living in a hot humid swamp. Spouse pounded it home to me that the truck is built to last as long as it’s maintained, so yeah, hoping that’s the last time I’m going to need another vehicle of any kind, until I’m too old to drive anymore which isn’t that long from now, I figure since I’m old as duck already.
God bless - nothing wrong with having the right tool for the job and not being frivolous. I too have an overly large truck but it’s a 3/4 ton (2500 HD) and almost 15 years old. I don’t drive it more than necessary but I own 20 acres and often enough I need to tow, haul or pull something that I couldn’t do without it. I’m going to keep this thing on the road until it dies or there’s an economically viable green alternative. But it’s crazy to think of the resources that go into a new one and I couldn’t justify it for a few mpg better, so I’m very happy to have a trustworthy mechanic 😁
And, while I really like the Rivian and the F150 lightening, they would be glorified very expensive toys and I’d still need to keep my big truck for the hard jobs, so they’ll wait till I win the lottery ¯(ツ)/¯
Saw another post on here about how ridiculously oversized the Ranger parked next to them was. Had to laugh as an American, can’t even imagine how some of the 3500 brodozers you see here would look on a European street
I still don’t understand what the point of a short box is. You can fit a decent amount of materials in it but why not just go for a full size box. Go figure.
I’ve got one, I can still haul anything 12’ and under legally with with tailgate up/down and flagged. And it gives me enough room to haul my kids around in the backseat.
A full size bed can’t have a crew cab, and any combination over that won’t fit in a 20’ garage, so you would need a non-standard “deeper” garage.
They fit a niche, just like most things. It’s not meant for everyone.
Seems to be what those in most of the US would call a standard size pickup truck. Not “compact” like a Hilux/Tacoma, nor comically oversized like the oft-lifted 3/4 or full-ton trucks.
It is in Texas. I have a pretty small car, and when I lived in California, I was constantly barely able to fit in parking spaces. In Texas, the parking spaces are huge to fit the trucks. It’s so nice.
Yes it is, to say it isn’t is just a lie, even if only one due to being under informed. To put it like this, talking about big rigs, 18 wheelers, or whatever you would like to call them, here in the US you mainly see “long nose” (American) styles, although yes you do still see “flat nose” or “cab over” designs, they are the European style, as the roads in Europe tend to be smaller than here in American, mainly due to some of those roads being much older than the USA is.
US trucks are ridiculously oversized and typically never see any actual “truck” usage. They’re also insanely expensive and are often redneck status symbols. As an American, I’m sorry they have infested your continent.
both work, not sure if there’s a real historical significance to using one over the other.
in my opinion, “all hat, no cattle” has stronger assonance, and flows better as a phrase. especially with a slight southern USA accent, it has a satisfying cadence
It’s a pickup truck. And probably not used for anything a truck would be used for. They’re everywhere in America and just as annoying.
I personally don’t see the point in having a vehicle this big unless it’s used for work (hauling materials and towing trailers) And 95% of the time, it’s not.
You and me both. I had a 97 Dodge Dakota Sport, which is barely bigger than my CUV. I miss that thing. I hauler a fridge in it once to help my friend out. Haven’t had a need to haul a fridge since, but still, never know when a truck bed will come in handy lol. I just hate that the smallest size now is enormous. Even “sport” models are what used to be standard size anymore.
The way I’d see them coming back is if we improved on electric vehicle design to make it efficient for the size without losing safety or affordability especially long term.
My deep dream is a revival of the El Camino but with current or next gen electric motors. Small with a bed for hauling larger items without the issue of fuel efficiency
Lol… I had to ask my gen z kid if he knew what they were… He didn’t so I showed him… Then I asked him, “car or truck”… He says car so that’s the answer from the future of America… 😂
LoL. Still to be fair from the front they very much look like a car and the chassis is probably more car than truck. It’s one of those weird in-between things but I suppose it is still better at carrying a load of whatever than a standard sedan.
Ute is also body on frame (in aus at least) but I would still call the oversized emotional support vehicles trucks instead of utes. That being said, most single cab utes have a bigger bed than a truck like an f150.
Ah my bad, in Europe we don’t see many of these cars. How would you call it? A truck?
of course the one person in europe who owns a pickup would park it on the sidewalk
Speaking as a Dutch person, our infrastructure just isn’t made for cars this size. People basically need to enlarge their driveways to park something like this. So if you need to park a car like this it’s almost impossible. That would stop most people from getting one, except the type of person that does buy one…
I mean, US infrastructure isn’t made for these beasts either.
I hate to say it, but that looks like a pretty small truck.
Source: I’m Texan but don’t hold it against me.
Yup. I get you and most certainly don’t hold it against you. Me and my F350 king cab diesel 4x4. And before anyone gets their asses up on their shoulders, this is my last vehicle god willing. And it was my spouses, and they needed it for their job and also here where we live on a two rut dirt road that’s not county maintained, where at least one storm a year blows down trees across it, that we then have to remove ourselves (though it’s just me now, having to do this), plus it floods yearly, so I need four wheel drive because the ground turns to peanut butter and stays that way for good month after it’s stopped flooding, and haul in materials to then fix the road, and also to port canoes and John boats between the flood waters, just boat in and out when the flood waters are too high. Also hauling in drinking water and groceries because I don’t leave the home more than twice a month (emphasis on that: so that truck doesn’t go anywhere all that much now), and also hauling off garbage to the county dump. Also hauling materials for constant home repair because all you can have out here are wooden homes up on stilts (flooding again and also storms), and even the best pressure treated, stained and sealed lumber rots, sooner vs later, when you’re living in a hot humid swamp. Spouse pounded it home to me that the truck is built to last as long as it’s maintained, so yeah, hoping that’s the last time I’m going to need another vehicle of any kind, until I’m too old to drive anymore which isn’t that long from now, I figure since I’m old as duck already.
Edit duck to fuck, heh.
God bless - nothing wrong with having the right tool for the job and not being frivolous. I too have an overly large truck but it’s a 3/4 ton (2500 HD) and almost 15 years old. I don’t drive it more than necessary but I own 20 acres and often enough I need to tow, haul or pull something that I couldn’t do without it. I’m going to keep this thing on the road until it dies or there’s an economically viable green alternative. But it’s crazy to think of the resources that go into a new one and I couldn’t justify it for a few mpg better, so I’m very happy to have a trustworthy mechanic 😁
And, while I really like the Rivian and the F150 lightening, they would be glorified very expensive toys and I’d still need to keep my big truck for the hard jobs, so they’ll wait till I win the lottery ¯(ツ)/¯
Saw another post on here about how ridiculously oversized the Ranger parked next to them was. Had to laugh as an American, can’t even imagine how some of the 3500 brodozers you see here would look on a European street
Looks like a Ram 1500, so not a small small truck like a Tacoma or ranger. It’s a decent sized truck, just got the short box 5’-8”.
I still don’t understand what the point of a short box is. You can fit a decent amount of materials in it but why not just go for a full size box. Go figure.
I’ve got one, I can still haul anything 12’ and under legally with with tailgate up/down and flagged. And it gives me enough room to haul my kids around in the backseat.
A full size bed can’t have a crew cab, and any combination over that won’t fit in a 20’ garage, so you would need a non-standard “deeper” garage.
They fit a niche, just like most things. It’s not meant for everyone.
Seems to be what those in most of the US would call a standard size pickup truck. Not “compact” like a Hilux/Tacoma, nor comically oversized like the oft-lifted 3/4 or full-ton trucks.
Hang on a sec a Hilux is considered a compact truck in America? That’s a big old car where I’m from…
Yup, it would be considered a compact like the Toyota Tacoma, Chevrolet Colorado, ect
It is in Texas. I have a pretty small car, and when I lived in California, I was constantly barely able to fit in parking spaces. In Texas, the parking spaces are huge to fit the trucks. It’s so nice.
Fit the trucks and the people.
Yes it is, to say it isn’t is just a lie, even if only one due to being under informed. To put it like this, talking about big rigs, 18 wheelers, or whatever you would like to call them, here in the US you mainly see “long nose” (American) styles, although yes you do still see “flat nose” or “cab over” designs, they are the European style, as the roads in Europe tend to be smaller than here in American, mainly due to some of those roads being much older than the USA is.
You’re not ready for the F-350 with extended bed then
They don’t fit on Northeastern American roads either. Why they get manufactured and purchased as often as they do is beyond me.
Emotional Support Vehicle
I call them any one of the following:
Grotesque monstrosities
Pavement princesses
Freudian excuses on wheels
US trucks are ridiculously oversized and typically never see any actual “truck” usage. They’re also insanely expensive and are often redneck status symbols. As an American, I’m sorry they have infested your continent.
Source: I live in a yeehaw state.
I like the more generic “All Hat”, as in “all hat, no cowboy” because it not only captures the vehicle, but the owner too.
Ass hat also suffices.
I thought the expression was “All hat and no cattle.” Now I gotta go look it up.
both work, not sure if there’s a real historical significance to using one over the other.
in my opinion, “all hat, no cattle” has stronger assonance, and flows better as a phrase. especially with a slight southern USA accent, it has a satisfying cadence
An abomination against god?
Yes that’s a pickup truck.
It’s a pickup truck. Often drive by assholes who like them but don’t need them
OftentypicallyIt’s a pickup truck. And probably not used for anything a truck would be used for. They’re everywhere in America and just as annoying.
I personally don’t see the point in having a vehicle this big unless it’s used for work (hauling materials and towing trailers) And 95% of the time, it’s not.
I wish the small commuter truck would come back but it’s a fools dream
I want Aussies to invade and force their utes on us. Basically still fill the function of a pickup for 95% of American pickup owners, but way smaller.
You and me both. I had a 97 Dodge Dakota Sport, which is barely bigger than my CUV. I miss that thing. I hauler a fridge in it once to help my friend out. Haven’t had a need to haul a fridge since, but still, never know when a truck bed will come in handy lol. I just hate that the smallest size now is enormous. Even “sport” models are what used to be standard size anymore.
Buddy of mine still drives a 35 year old Datsun diesel…there’s nothing equivalent out there today.
US fuel efficiency rules effectively banned them. The light duty pickups are not coming back, sadly.
The way I’d see them coming back is if we improved on electric vehicle design to make it efficient for the size without losing safety or affordability especially long term.
I have a 2015 Tacoma, which I love. But I would much rather an ‘84 Toyota pickup.
My deep dream is a revival of the El Camino but with current or next gen electric motors. Small with a bed for hauling larger items without the issue of fuel efficiency
Yup. If it’s got a bed in the back for transporting stuff, it’s a truck. In this case, a short-box truck.
An SUV is basically like a tall 4-door sedan with hinged doors a hatch-back (if the rear doors are sliding, then it’s a van/mini-van)
So an El Camino is a truck?
Also begs the question, what’s a Subaru brat or Baja then?
An El Camino is a chariot of the gods. It transcends common labels.
Sorta.
The Chevrolet El Camino was a car-based light truck that Chevrolet offered from 1959–'60 and 1964–1987
It was also a train, according to Wikipedia :-)
Lol… I had to ask my gen z kid if he knew what they were… He didn’t so I showed him… Then I asked him, “car or truck”… He says car so that’s the answer from the future of America… 😂
LoL. Still to be fair from the front they very much look like a car and the chassis is probably more car than truck. It’s one of those weird in-between things but I suppose it is still better at carrying a load of whatever than a standard sedan.
For sure… Made for a funny discussion all around in my opinion though.
“Pickup truck”
That is a truck or pickup truck or pickup.
SUV does not have a flat bed for cargo.
As the owner of a Subaru Baja, I call it an Ute. The short bed is useful to a point (hauling tanks of flammable fuel, etc) but not perfect.
If it’s not a body on frame vehicle, I wouldn’t call it a truck.
Ute is also body on frame (in aus at least) but I would still call the oversized emotional support vehicles trucks instead of utes. That being said, most single cab utes have a bigger bed than a truck like an f150.