• fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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    7 months ago

    It’s not what she’s saying, it’s the messenger.

    Do you think she’s the type of person that a climate change laggard would respect, or want to engage with?

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      7 months ago

      Her argument for being vocal is that her and her generation will have to live with the consequences of our fuckups the longest and hardest. I think that’s pretty valid. Also, she wasn’t “elected by the central climate movement council to be their representative”, if anyone, the media “elected” her and gave her a platform. So maybe be mad at them for not choosing someone “better”?

      There are plenty of old white men with respectable titles saying the exact same thing as her. If a “climate change laggard” wants to hear the same message in a deeper voice, they certainly can. For those who can be moved to action at all (and there are definitely many who are “too far gone” in some conspiracy bullshit) she can be effective for many, especially younger people who have to be shaken from their stupor. So I think it’s a bit critical to “tell the girl to shut up”.

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        7 months ago

        Ok. She’s a vapid twenty year old with no life experience and nothing to say. She has no expertise, and she’s never suffered any inconvenience to prevent climate change.

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          Never suffered any inconvenience? Like, have you seen how she travels? But also…

          What expertise do you need to say “stop adding carbon to the atmosphere” at this point? Everyone lives here, we all should have something to say about what is inevitably coming down the pike - especially the young. You just come across as someone who has everything to lose wanting those with nothing to lose to sit down, shut up, buckle up, and just be grateful for the ride to whatever hell we’re heading to.

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            7 months ago

            have you seen how she travels

            Honestly no, but however it is it’s part of her brand. She’s a climate change super star, she could literally spend the rest of her life putting her name on books written by ghost writers and make 10 times the amount really achievable by the working class. Everyone does some backpacking with questionable modes of transport in their 20s. Not everyone builds a media empire out of it.

            What expertise do you need to say “stop adding carbon to the atmosphere” at this point?

            None. Sadly however there is no “stop adding carbon to the atmosphere” button, and we need to figure out how to do it. You can ride your bike to work all you like, but the kind of reduction we need is going to come from polluting industries. Technology and governance is going to solve climate change, not cycling.

            You just come across as someone who has everything to lose wanting those with nothing to lose to sit down, shut up […]

            That’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying that Greta isn’t promoting meaningful change.