• negativenull@negativenull.com
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    Which will only happen if Trump is not elected. If he IS elected, he’ll pardon himself (along with anyone he’s ever met) and trigger a huge constitutional crisis over pardoning oneself (meaning presidents can break ANY law they want).

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      Why it important we keep the fucker out of the Whitehouse at all cost.

      Also why the fuck is it being put off until NEXT FUCKING YEAR? This is the opposite of an speedy trail.

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        DOJ wanted a delay until December, Trump lawyers wanted an indefinite delay. Seems like Cannon split the difference.

        Keep in mind too… the 34 felony count New York trial is in March.

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          I gotta ask, how is mishandling classified documents not a good reason to keep him out of office where he would have more access to classified documents?

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                My user name probably should have given it away lol

                Like, one of the documents he mishandled was one showing a plan to attack Iran. Why the fuck are you okay with the government making plans like that and hiding them from you?

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      The election isn’t until November, 2024 and he wouldn’t take office until January, 2025.

      Plenty of time for a conviction.

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        The hope is that if convicted, he’s be ineligible to hold office as president. That is not a guarantee as there is no precedent one way or another. More lawsuits, more supreme court intervention, more unknowns.

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          None of the felonies in New York or Florida would prevent him from taking office. It’s POSSIBLE charges in the 1/6 or Georgia cases MAY, but we don’t know what those charges are yet, much less when the trial dates will be.

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        Primaries would be over by then tho. So we’re looking at possibly the Republican nominee being on trial just months before an election.

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          Yeah, it looks like about 1/2 the states have their primaries in March, with a few happening before that:

          https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/2024-state-primary-election-dates

          But the indictments are a pretty big club for the other candidates to beat him over the head with.

          All they really need to do is re-play his sound bites from 2016 when he was saying you can’t trust someone who is under investigation…

          Well, we’re past that in two cases now, moving from investigation to indictment and arrest…

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          Yeah, it looks like about 1/2 the states have their primaries in March, with a few happening before that:

          https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/2024-state-primary-election-dates

          But the indictments are a pretty big club for the other candidates to beat him over the head with.

          All they really need to do is re-play his sound bites from 2016 when he was saying you can’t trust someone who is under investigation…

          We’ll, we’re past that in two cases now, moving from investigation to indictment and arrest…

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      Not only will he pardon himself, he will come after the legal system. This guy is a fucking disaster, how he’s free to walk the earth is truly mystifying.

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      It’s already been decided that presidents can’t pardon themselves. Nixon tried it during the watergate scandal, and got shot down. The bigger issue is that with the way the SCOTUS is stacked in Trump’s favor, they may actually allow him to do it simply because it’s him. Like they’ll say yes, then do some weird nonsensical legal argument for why it should be allowed.