• JigglySackles@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 year ago

    How much greenhouse gas does does a private jet make? I’m tired of them putting it on the overburdened collective to do huge industry sweeping change, when we could swat down a few more private jets, regulate some industries better, and impose sanctions and other measures on countries that aren’t cooperating and have major drastic impact with much less overall effort.

    • Vegoon@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 year ago

      All aviation creates 2% of the GHG. Food production is responsible for 25% of the GHG and could be reduced by 75% with plant based diets.

    • RagingRobot@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      Or just regulate these big factory farms more. Stop subsidizing these things Make it more expensive and people won’t buy as much.

        • Madusch@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Nobody NEEDS to eat meat 3x per day. Subsidize healthy food options instead.

        • RockyBockySocky@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Animal products are incredibly harmful to the climate and are inherently wasteful.

          Those corporations get their money from people like you.

          Yes regulation would be the best to stop them but you know that’s not gonna happen any time soon, especially when everyone refuses to change their own habits, politicians aren’t gonna force through regulations that get people angry because they want their steaks.

          Why do you want to continue to participate in something bad until it’s legally not allowed anymore?
          Why not do what you can (stop consuming animal products) while also advocating for regulation and political change?

          What does holding evil corporations accountable look like if not refusing to give them your money?

        • SCB@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          The “top 100 companies” line misplaces blame because, as you can clearly see, they produce shit the world uses constantly (the top “emitters” are all fuel/logistics)

          You can’t “hold them responsible” without things like carbon taxes that are all politically non-viable in most places. The companies aren’t emitting, themselves - demand for their products is the problem.

          All those power plants aren’t on as a hobby. They’re powering homes. The emitters are the end users.

    • projectd@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Private jets are bad, agreed… How about making the change to veganism and also campaigning about private jets at the same time? Picking a different item on a menu is all it takes for a people in a lot of places and it’s t really the type of problem that humanity should be throwing everything at.

      • Erk@cdda.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        Speaking as someone who is plant based, it’s a false dichotomy anyway. It’s not “go vegan or eat lots of meat”. People who don’t share the vegan philosophy could just eat very little meat and make a huge difference to the planet, just like how I bike or walk to work but once in a while I drive.

        • Tak@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          I don’t understand why everything has to be some lifestyle piece now. It’s so all or nothing instead of taking the battles you can win when you can win them.

          • Erk@cdda.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            It’s mostly an internet thing, especially a Reddit thing. I don’t think it’s as much a widespread culture as all that if you talk to folks who aren’t terminally online.

            • Tak@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 year ago

              I think you’re talking about veganism exclusively and I’m more talking everything.

              You can’t just be someone who likes something or thinks something, it now has to be your lifestyle or part of you. You’re not just a person who like riding bikes, your a cyclist and you have to strive to wear spandex and all that. I think it’s pretty common when talking about phones where people will make the computer they keep in their pocket a statement about themselves.

              • Erk@cdda.social
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                Nah, I’m talking about everything. Tons of people still ride bikes for transport and don’t identify as cyclists, or don’t really care whether their phone is an android or iPhone. A large majority of people don’t identify with little details of their lives like that, but when you go online into a specific topic there’s a much higher chance of running into people who feel really strongly about it, because they’re drawn to the topic and are participating in a subset of people who already tend to be really passionate about nerdy shit.