• zefiax@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You are free to disagree with their pricing and cancel a subscription if you have one. That’s how the free market works.

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      1 year ago

      “Free market works” is by itself a very questionable statement.

      But there sure are some more options beyond that. Although some people think we shouldn’t be free to pick them.

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        1 year ago

        You are free to pick w.e you want. That doesn’t make someone actually paying for a decent platform a corporate shill.

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          1 year ago

          Our definitions of “decent” are definitely different. But this is not just about what you choose to do, it’s about all the fingerwagging people do at people who don’t believe this is worth paying (even more) for.

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            The only finger wagging going on is people calling people corporate shills for actually paying for a service.

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              Then you need to look better because you are down a thread pointing out how people are getting downvoted and ragged on for suggesting ad blocking options.

              I find it hilarious that point out the fact that you aren’t entitled to free hosting services is getting down voted.

              Actually nevermind. Just look at the mirror. You really are talking of Google like it’s a struggling charity.

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                Then you need to look better because you are down a thread pointing out how people are getting downvoted and ragged on for suggesting ad blocking options.

                No I am a thread calling people corporate shills for disagreeing with people saying we should all be pirating.

                Actually nevermind. Just look at the mirror. You really are talking of Google like it’s a struggling charity.

                It doesn’t matter how rich google is, it doesn’t owe you video hosting services. It’s not a charity. You can disagree with their pricing and you can find another platform if you like. But services cost money and just because a company has money through other sources doesn’t mean they need to subsidize all their products.

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                  It doesn’t matter how rich google is

                  Of course it does. Not only Google has plenty of money to keep it running, don’t even try to make a moral argument out of one of these companies stripmining everyone’s data

                  If you care so much about the costs of hosting, I hope you donate to the Lemmy.

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                    Of course it does. Not only Google has plenty of money to keep it running, don’t even try to make a moral argument out of one of these companies stripmining everyone’s data

                    No it absolutely does not. It is a business, not a charity. They don’t owe anyone anything for free. That’s how the world works. Your personal data is a part of the fee you pay for the service. And again no one is forcing anyone to use that service. There are plenty of alternatives like Nebula that the content creators themselves have set up. You are free to just not use it if you don’t like it.

                    If you care so much about the costs of hosting, I hope you donate to the Lemmy.

                    I am new to Lemmy but I absolutely will just as I donate to wikipedia. If it is giving me value, then I am happy to support it financially up to the point where I think the finances are equal to the value I am receiving in return.

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              Would just like to interject; while I agree with what you’re saying, and yes, lots of people think an amazing service should be free, which is wrong… But YouTube/Google is now 100% beholden to their shareholders, and this, plus the last couple of price rises, is gouging to make some millionaires richer and is fucking despicable

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                That’s for consumers to decide. If people still pay for it and think it’s worth their money, then they aren’t really gouging, they were just under priced. If people don’t and start cancelling their subscriptions, they have over priced it and now need to bring the price back down. For me personally, Netflix is the one teetering on that point, YT isn’t there yet.