Oh god please don’t drag the invisible hand into this.
Let me give me an example: I’m a photographer. I do a limited run of 500 of my prints. You are upset at the cost of my prints - even though you can afford it - so you go find a real one, make a great scan of my photo without my permission or remove my watermark from a public one where I explicitly say do not reproduce with my permission, blow it up, and put it on your wall.
Is that right?
As for your software example, you are leaving out a critical element: why are you entitled to the software? The answer is you aren’t, you just want it.
What if I can’t afford it? What if I wouldn’t pay for it even if I could? How are you harmed by me putting it on my wall? You still have 500 photos to sell, and you didn’t lose a customer because I never was one to begin with.
I don’t think I’m entitled to it, I just think it’s a victimless situation. I download shit because I can and because I wouldn’t pay for it anyway. And noone is harmed or effected in any way.
I never made any justifications or claims of morality. I don’t think pirating is some moral service in most cases, but I also strongly disagree that it’s immoral. And yes, it may be a small percentage, but there are people out there pirating purely for archival sake. Archive.org has dumps of old games for pretty much every system. Lots of retro games would be unplayable now if people hadn’t pirated them. Same with books and movies that go out of print. It definitely does help to keep the media alive.
My main point though was that I strongly disagree that there’s any immoral or unethical about it, provided I’m not profiting off your work. You literally would never even have a way of knowing, if i kept a copy just for personal use. It’s also definitely not theft, it’s a civil matter and in civil matters you have to prove damages, which is impossible in the example you gave because there is no damage to you (or your reputation).
Oh god please don’t drag the invisible hand into this.
Let me give me an example: I’m a photographer. I do a limited run of 500 of my prints. You are upset at the cost of my prints - even though you can afford it - so you go find a real one, make a great scan of my photo without my permission or remove my watermark from a public one where I explicitly say do not reproduce with my permission, blow it up, and put it on your wall.
Is that right?
As for your software example, you are leaving out a critical element: why are you entitled to the software? The answer is you aren’t, you just want it.
What if I can’t afford it? What if I wouldn’t pay for it even if I could? How are you harmed by me putting it on my wall? You still have 500 photos to sell, and you didn’t lose a customer because I never was one to begin with.
I don’t think I’m entitled to it, I just think it’s a victimless situation. I download shit because I can and because I wouldn’t pay for it anyway. And noone is harmed or effected in any way.
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I never made any justifications or claims of morality. I don’t think pirating is some moral service in most cases, but I also strongly disagree that it’s immoral. And yes, it may be a small percentage, but there are people out there pirating purely for archival sake. Archive.org has dumps of old games for pretty much every system. Lots of retro games would be unplayable now if people hadn’t pirated them. Same with books and movies that go out of print. It definitely does help to keep the media alive.
My main point though was that I strongly disagree that there’s any immoral or unethical about it, provided I’m not profiting off your work. You literally would never even have a way of knowing, if i kept a copy just for personal use. It’s also definitely not theft, it’s a civil matter and in civil matters you have to prove damages, which is impossible in the example you gave because there is no damage to you (or your reputation).
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