Google Meet’s background blur and visual filters do not work on Firefox. MS Teams straight up says that Firefox is not a supported browser. These decisions might be intentional on the part of Google and Microsoft, but to the average user of these popular products, it looks like a Firefox problem.
These decisions might be intentional on the part of Google and Microsoft
Well, yes - it’s profitable for these corporations to portray Firefox as buggy and their own browser as superior. Change your user agent to one of a Chromium-based browser and watch how your “unsupported” Firefox suddenly works correctly in most cases.
This extension blurs the entire camera feed instead of only the background, so it’s not really a solution unfortunately.
I’ve also tried a simple useragent change in Firefox, but the feature still didn’t work. That leads me to think they’re using browser features that are not available on Firefox.
Another thing I’ve noticed is that Google’s background blur implementation has better edge detection than apps like Zoom, and it handles things like curly hairstyles more gracefully.
I got curious and started looking into this. Looks like you can enable background blur in google meet if you’re using the latest version of firefox, I just did myself to confirm.
All I need to do is by spoofing the user agent in about:config, by setting general.useragent.override to Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/112.0.0.0 Safari/537.36.
Awesome, I’ll have a look again. Last time I tried changing the useragent (it was a while ago), the whole Google Meet website had some issues and it didn’t work. Maybe the specific useragent you use also has an impact.
I deem Firefox a bit buggy, but that’s because I use it on platforms that get very little use, And I ain’t got time to hunt bugs down. I barely have the time to report them.
But it’s not people like you and me I’m talking about. It’s people who discovered internet after 2000, who think Firefox doesn’t have enough features, and is “being unreasonable”, because essentially every. single. browser is now chrome or chromium, with the exception of Firefox (and safari?); and because of companies like adobe blaming Firefox for “not playing nice with others” simply because it isn’t chrome/chromium…
Edit: to those who downvoted, which I can only assume is because of my comment on bugs, please install NetBSD 9.3, ctwm, set pkgin up against 2023Q1, and install Firefox 110.0.1 with noscript, umatrix and ublock origin. Now witness how all your menus disappear immediatey as you mouseover upon them. Now please explain to me how this isn’t a bug…
Edit 2: instead of attempting to “backseat debug” without any information on the actual problem, or even without trying to reproduce the bug (I gave all the info I would start with), please accept that Firefox can have bugs, and that people online can know what they are talking about. Thanks.
It works fine with my Cinnamon window manager. So the bug could be in Firefox, in your WM, in both, or more likely in the integration of two, as a side effect, which why I’ve said “on the edge”. It’s nearly impossible to test your software with every combination of a system. So the solution here to file an issue both for WM and Firefox and hope someone from either communities will solve it. Or just get another browser or WM.
Sounds to me like some of the third party plugins/extensions you’ve installed are conflicting with one another. That’s not Mozilla’s fault. That can happen to Chrome too.
You’re using several extensions that were all made by different people, and not necessarily designed to interact or be finally l functional together. That’s not a Firefox bug.
Extensions are third party apps and most, if not all, of them are not made by Mozilla. If an unofficial, third party plugin doesn’t work, it’s not up to Firefox to fix that. The issue is with the third party apps.
FF is allowed to change their software, and they’re not at fault if those changes break existing plugins that they had no hand in creating. That’s not how software works.
Seriously, not to take anything away from what is does good, but Firefox is littered with bugs. And most websites seem to be optimised for Chrome these days which makes the Firefox experience a bit less nice.
Links or it didn’t happen. Seriously, I have used FF and only FF for the last 15 years and have had zero showstoppers.
Link me some links that work in chrome and not firefox, I wanna see!
I’ve had some instances of wondering why a website doesn’t load or does it’s function properly, usually government websites or application forms, and the issue gets resolved once I do it on Chrome or Edge. It’s not a big deal for me, I daily drive Firefox and have Edge installed for those instances.
I wonder if you deem Firefox buggy or having not enough features?
Using Firefox since it came out and never experienced any troubles.
Google Meet’s background blur and visual filters do not work on Firefox. MS Teams straight up says that Firefox is not a supported browser. These decisions might be intentional on the part of Google and Microsoft, but to the average user of these popular products, it looks like a Firefox problem.
Well, yes - it’s profitable for these corporations to portray Firefox as buggy and their own browser as superior. Change your user agent to one of a Chromium-based browser and watch how your “unsupported” Firefox suddenly works correctly in most cases.
Google products only supporting chromium is a take as old as time. Try using this extension to enable background blur and see if it’ll work: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mercator-studio/
This extension blurs the entire camera feed instead of only the background, so it’s not really a solution unfortunately.
I’ve also tried a simple useragent change in Firefox, but the feature still didn’t work. That leads me to think they’re using browser features that are not available on Firefox.
Another thing I’ve noticed is that Google’s background blur implementation has better edge detection than apps like Zoom, and it handles things like curly hairstyles more gracefully.
I got curious and started looking into this. Looks like you can enable background blur in google meet if you’re using the latest version of firefox, I just did myself to confirm.
All I need to do is by spoofing the user agent in
about:config
, by settinggeneral.useragent.override
toMozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/112.0.0.0 Safari/537.36
.If I remove the user agent spoofing, google meet refuses to show the background effect options.
So my conclusion is google deliberately gate this feature behind user agent sniffing. Firefox is perfectly capable of supporting this feature.
Some discussion about the issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1703668
Awesome, I’ll have a look again. Last time I tried changing the useragent (it was a while ago), the whole Google Meet website had some issues and it didn’t work. Maybe the specific useragent you use also has an impact.
Teams works fine on ff / linux …
A lot of that stuff can be fixed by switching your user agent to Chrome
Teams works fine on Firefox.
Are you using a useragent changer?
I am still getting this:
Works fine: https://i.imgur.com/5dbLGNi.png
Might be cos I’m running on a mac?
I deem Firefox a bit buggy, but that’s because I use it on platforms that get very little use, And I ain’t got time to hunt bugs down. I barely have the time to report them.
But it’s not people like you and me I’m talking about. It’s people who discovered internet after 2000, who think Firefox doesn’t have enough features, and is “being unreasonable”, because essentially every. single. browser is now chrome or chromium, with the exception of Firefox (and safari?); and because of companies like adobe blaming Firefox for “not playing nice with others” simply because it isn’t chrome/chromium…
Edit: to those who downvoted, which I can only assume is because of my comment on bugs, please install NetBSD 9.3, ctwm, set pkgin up against 2023Q1, and install Firefox 110.0.1 with noscript, umatrix and ublock origin. Now witness how all your menus disappear immediatey as you
mouseover
upon them. Now please explain to me how this isn’t a bug…Edit 2: instead of attempting to “backseat debug” without any information on the actual problem, or even without trying to reproduce the bug (I gave all the info I would start with), please accept that Firefox can have bugs, and that people online can know what they are talking about. Thanks.
Look like a bug on the edge of WM/App
Yeah well, Firefox is the only GUI software that shows this behavior, and it wasn’t present with 102. The only thing that changed was Firefox.
It works fine with my Cinnamon window manager. So the bug could be in Firefox, in your WM, in both, or more likely in the integration of two, as a side effect, which why I’ve said “on the edge”. It’s nearly impossible to test your software with every combination of a system. So the solution here to file an issue both for WM and Firefox and hope someone from either communities will solve it. Or just get another browser or WM.
Sounds to me like some of the third party plugins/extensions you’ve installed are conflicting with one another. That’s not Mozilla’s fault. That can happen to Chrome too.
You’re using several extensions that were all made by different people, and not necessarily designed to interact or be finally l functional together. That’s not a Firefox bug.
Yeah sure, the exact same set of extensions that worked with 102, and that works works with 110 on other OSes. Must be that…
Extensions are third party apps and most, if not all, of them are not made by Mozilla. If an unofficial, third party plugin doesn’t work, it’s not up to Firefox to fix that. The issue is with the third party apps.
FF is allowed to change their software, and they’re not at fault if those changes break existing plugins that they had no hand in creating. That’s not how software works.
Never? Are you only browsing Lemmy and Wikipedia?
Seriously, not to take anything away from what is does good, but Firefox is littered with bugs. And most websites seem to be optimised for Chrome these days which makes the Firefox experience a bit less nice.
Links or it didn’t happen. Seriously, I have used FF and only FF for the last 15 years and have had zero showstoppers.
Link me some links that work in chrome and not firefox, I wanna see!
The visual effects (background overlay, animations etc) in Google Meet do not work 😢
That’s not a firefox bug but a deliberate google roadblock
I’ve had some instances of wondering why a website doesn’t load or does it’s function properly, usually government websites or application forms, and the issue gets resolved once I do it on Chrome or Edge. It’s not a big deal for me, I daily drive Firefox and have Edge installed for those instances.