Yes, but you’re not applying the hypothesis to the fullest.
If it’s correct, and the number of worlds is infinite, then some of you buy tickets even when you don’t. And they win. So, you don’t actually need to make the move at all. 😎
If it’s truly an infinite number of worlds, in some of them you win the lottery without even buying a ticket.
Yes. In some, you’re given enough wealth that it renders lotteries obsolete.
And then there’s the other infinite number of worlds where you’re eating out of dumpsters and living under a bridge.
Are you mocking me?
No. I’m mocking the you in another universe, you’re fine.
This really makes one of me angry somewhere
Don’t worry I think I just slapped you in world 445B-Omega
Of course. And some put the reality of Dead Man’s Letters into shame.
I just need to invent a device to merge with them.
Plenty of lottery winners end more miserably than they were before. If anything, invent the device that’s gonna make you happy just where you are…
Always accept the winnings through an LLC and a lawyer. Don’t tell your family or friends unless you can really trust them. Be kind and giving and you should be fine.
Have you ever won a lot of money in a lottery? I mean A LOT, not some “enough to buy a used car/new desktop rig”?
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You see? Advice is like a weapon. It needs to be tested in the fire of combat to prove itself good.
Serious question: Can somebody explain to me, if an infinite number of universes exist, why do we assume that every possibility must exist within the set? Like, why can’t it be an infinite number of universes in which OP does not win the lottery?
Your intuition is correct here. OP is wrong. An infinite set of branches of the wavefunction does not necessarily imply that everything you can imagine must happen somewhere in that wavefunction.
Fun fact: you can have multiple sets of infinities and even though all are infinite, that does not mean they are all equal. See Georg Cantor.
If you say so :)
I mean, Cantor said so, not I. But an easy example
Imagine a list of all whole numbers. 1, 2, 3 on up and up. Obviously this list is infinite - numbers do not end.
Now imagine a list of all real numbers - that is, all numbers plus their decimal amounts between each while number. 1, 1.1, 1.11, 1.12, 2, 2.1, and so on. This list is also infinite - but it is also inherently larger than the infinite list of only whole numbers. It has more numbers.
That’s like saying am infinite number of feathers is lighter than an infinite number of bricks. Neither is heavier than the other - they’re both infinitely heavy.
You’re measuring a quality of the two objects, not the quantity, which might make a difference. I’m just sharing something I learned that I think is cool:)
Murphy’s Law (edited a bit by the Nolan brothers)- If something can happen, it will happen. On the scale of infinity, this is particularly inevitable.
But what evidence is there for this being true?
Umm…logic? Statistics? If something has a chance of happening, even the smallest possible chance conceivable, it will happen given infinite time and iteration.
Well, but if there are other “me”s, then there must be some set of common events that must occur in each universe containing a copy of me in order for that individual to qualify as me. In that case, isn’t it entirely possible that those particular things that must be in place preclude certain other possibilities that make it such that there is no chance that some otherwise conceivable events could occur?
Sure, and that would fall under “can’t happen, won’t happen”.
And if we’re getting that philosophical about it, what qualifies as “you”? Arguably, that’s just you, since you represent a single culmination of events and possibilities. All other variations would technically be someone else with a mostly similar history. You could consider a “spectrum” of you’s, but again, where is the cutoff? Trying to define that gets pretty tricky.
I agree with all of that. But the bigger point is that there are things that can’t/won’t happen that we can’t predict, so this means we can’t assume that “there must be a universe in which X happens to me”.
In respect to the lottery, every (lottery valid) combination has a chance of happening and we are assuming infinite variation, so if someone buys a lotto ticket for say “1 2 3 4 5”, that will be the picked numbers in at least one variation.
Even if you don’t buy a lottery ticket an infinite of you wins
However, every time you buy a lottery ticket, almost all of you lose a little bit of money.
In many of those worlds the lottery doesn’t exist.
In many of those worlds you don’t exist.
The possibilities are endless.
That’s only if you assume that you winning the lottery falls within the infinite, but bounded, realm of random fluctuations between when you bought the ticket and the winning numbers are drawn. There’s still physical constraints that the random quantum fluctuations fall within.
An example is, there are infinite numbers between 1 and 2, there’s 1.1, 1.11, 1.111, etc. Because of the constraints however, we can still know that none of those infinite numbers between 1 and 2 are equal to 3. Infinite doesn’t mean anything is possible.
An infinite number of you wins.
Someday that me might be me.
It’s possible to have an infinite number of universes where you win the lottery in none of them. It’s a common misconception that infinity=every combination when that’s not necessarily the case (there are infinite values between 1 and 2 for example, but none of those are 3)
It’s also a common misconception that Everett’s many worlds involves an infinite number of universes.
And that it involves multiple outcomes for macro objects like lottery balls.
It only means multiple ‘worlds’ specifically for quantum outcomes, so in OP’s case their winning or not winning the lottery would need to be dependent on a superposition of quanta (i.e. Schrodinger’s lottery ticket).
And given the prevailing thinking is that there’s a finite number of quanta in the universe, there cannot be an infinite number of parallel worlds. (There could only be an infinite number of aggregate worlds if time is infinite and there’s perpetual quantum ‘foam’ in its final state perpetuating multiple possibilities).
The theory is much less interesting than is often depicted in mass media (though as of recently is a fair bit more interesting given the way many worlds as a theory would mirror what backpropagation of the physical universe might look like).
I thought many worlds meant every single possible divergent quantum thingy gets its own universe. There is a universe where a single potassium atom in a banana in my kitchen doesn’t decay and there is another universe where that same potassium atom does decay. Multiply that for every single particle in the universe, right?
I guess even if that was true on a macroscopic level that’s not going to guarantee that every possible thing happens?
In at least one world, the ticket machine short circuits and electrocutes you. In one of those, you become a superhero named Lottery Lightning.
But also, every time you buy a lottery ticket, one of you gets a paper cut from it and dies from an infection from antibiotic resistant bacteria.
Yet you’ll go bankrupt 10 years after in every one you win. This universal constant defies the multiverse.
And every time you don’t win, you can slowly confirm your darkest fears that you are indeed in your shittiest timeline.
While the basic idea is interesting, the statement is misconceived. It confuses what you believe to be possible with what is possible according to quantum physics.
For your statement to be true, the lottery would have to be set up in such a way that the choice of winning lottery number is decided by the outcome of a quantum measurement which includes the possibility of your number being chosen. The outcome would then exist in superposition, and as soon as you learn the result, you are entangled with it and enter into superposition as well.
But like I said, the core idea is still fun to think about, because this type of branching happens constantly and it becomes an interesting philosophical dilemma of how to think about what could possibly happen, not merely what does (as far as any ‘you’ can tell). Imagine if you could experience all outcomes of some particular chain of events and how that would affect the way you make decisions.
Also, everytime you buy a lottery ticket you also don’t.
Likely one of the “other” yous won when you decided not to buy a ticket.
So a version of me must win every single lottery, but I will never win any of them if I don’t buy a ticket.
Gotcha.
Correction: at least one of you wins.
It’s possible to buy a lottery ticket where ALL of the alternative universes wins the lottery EXEPT you
