Looking for a normie KDE distro that works out of the box and is stable without issues.

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      It has been 442d 15h 07m 53s since Manjaro !$%&?*# up.

      So a year and a half? That’s not all that bad really. And that time it was a (admittedly bloody stupid) cock up involving the SSL certificate of their website not of the distro itself

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        Sure, maybe they’re better now, but this long list is why the reputation stuck.

        That and EndeavourOS exists

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          I don’t have any issues with the complaints often mentioned about Manjaro.

          Linux Mint, on the other hand, once got hacked and hosted malware on their website :(

          But I’m sure you’re as quick to tell people about that as you are to tell people about Manjaro.

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            But I’m sure you’re as quick to tell people about that as you are to tell people about Manjaro.

            Why would I tell people about something I’ve never heard of before? Go shove your snide attitude up your ass.

            Also pretty disingenuous to compare a single incident of being hacked with a pattern of sloppiness and negligence.

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              Well, you’ve heard about it now so I fully expect you to take up the crusade like you have against manjaro, unless you’re biased/tribalist.

              Also pretty disingenuous to compare a single incident of being hacked with a pattern of sloppiness and negligence.

              No it’s not, lol. Being infected with malware is worse than anything the Manjaro team has done. If you disagree, then you’re just not worth taking seriously.

              Let’s be honest though, you’re not worth taking seriously because you just do what you think will make you look good in front of your peers.

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                If you thinking getting hacked once is comparable to a multi-year pattern of being clearly negligent and sloppy, then there’s not much hope for you.

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                  One is significantly worse than the other. Getting hacked is significantly worse than anything the Manjaro team did. My point is that what happened to Linux Mint was worse than anything that happened to Manjaro, but people like you never get up in arms about it.

                  You might want to brush up on your reading comprehension if this is difficult for you to understand.

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                    Getting hacked is something that can happen to anyone. Being negligent to the point of ddosing the AUR multiple times is isn’t.

                    You can’t seriously be this obtuse.

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          Also I’ve just actually looked at EndeavourOS’ website and it says very clearly front and centre that it’s focused on the terminal, which is entirely not what OP was even asking for. It might be a fine distro, I don’t know, I’ve never used it or checked how many years it is since they cocked up, but it doesn’t present itself as a KDE focused distro which is what OP (and I) want!

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            I keep saying that’s what turns me off from endeavor as a Manjaro user.

            That, and it seems like all the people suggesting it don’t really have their minds grounded in reality.

            A lot of them legitimately believe Arch is a sufficient replacement for Manjaro, and that just tells me they aren’t worth taking seriously.

            There’s a lot of 🧩 in the FOSS space, and I think we should acknowledge it for what it is instead of putting it on a pedestal.

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            That must be why it ships with a GUI installer, that can install any of the popular DEs and WMs…

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          Or maybe you just have a weird bee in your bonnet about something that’s not even really a problem as evidenced from your own numbers

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                Why? Because after a series of negligent incidents spanning multiple years, a couple of which impacted the AUR for everyone they’ve gone a year and a bit without another major incident?

                Again, EndeavourOS exists – all Manjaro does for you is hold back packages making things unstable.

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                    Debian, Slackware, and Ubuntu are not Arch-based, so of course they’re not relevant.

                    Obviously Arch is relevant, but it’s more difficult to install without a GUI installer. Enter EndeavourOS.

                    If you’re not using Manjaro to get “Arch with a graphical installer” then… what are you using it for?