• Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Pretty sure the EU has done more for USA privacy on accident than our own government has done in general.

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      10 months ago

      Just wait for some corporate white knight to come here and explain how EU is stopping innovation. Love these guys, I always have a bag of popcorn at the ready.

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        10 months ago

        REEEEEE MUH LIGHTNING PORT REEEEE IT WAS SUCH INNOVATION REEEEEEEE USBC KILLED MUH 11 YEAR OLD USB2.0 SPEED CONNECTOR

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          10 months ago

          i swear i argued with someone that said killing lightning would create so much ewaste, and that still sounds like a stupid arguement to me…

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    10 months ago

    Google may be forced by the EU to give you the freedom to choose which services are linked*

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    10 months ago

    The Digital Markets Act (DMA) is an EU law that takes effect on March 6, 2024. As a result of the DMA, in the EU, Google offers you the choice to keep certain Google services linked.

    Gotta love the weaselly language.

    I’m wondering if they try to slither out of actually complying with the law.

    • They say they will unlink whatever “Ad Services” is and everything else. IMO they should unlink customer ad profiles from other service accounts, which I don’t expect them to do.
    • The whole point of the DMA is not just to have Google unlink your Youtube account from your Gmail account, but that they provide the same level of service and integration to outside services as with their own, without prioritizing their own. That means that I should be able to use Google Chrome and Search together to the same degree as Firefox and Search. Execs at Google are on record saying the only point of them developing Chrome is to do stuff that is now against the law in Europe. I wonder if they find a new business model or keep the current, illegal one.
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    10 months ago

    I’m sure they’ll do it in a way that’s convenient and doesn’t require 14 clicks through obnoxiously designed popups every single time you use a Google service. Yep, certainly no way this could go wrong.

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      10 months ago

      They just need to put it in the regular account settings and not a single person on the planet will figure out how to get to them and change them.

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      10 months ago

      Law says that they can’t favour their own service over that of their competitors. I guess they’ll break it though.

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        10 months ago

        and when they’re caught, they’ll dispute the claims with regulators, like every company does all the time.

        i remember digging a bit into the french data protection office v. discord a while back, when they got hit with sanctions for not respecting gdpr, and they disputed every single claim, sometimes arguing in real bad faith, like them claiming they handle very little private user data, so they don’t need to do data protection analysies like the law says.

        considering google’s sheer empire on data, i imagine they play the same tricks, but like 1000× worse

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    10 months ago

    The EU seems like the only major entity actually trying at this point. They deserve a huge thanks in my book.

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      10 months ago

      Sometimes the EU kicks ass. Other times, it’s the opposite. See EU browser root certs.

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        10 months ago

        Well, EU at least isn’t compromised like US governments, and still have some sense and its bureaucracy have some senses to prevent Big Tech taking over them, but because of the same bureaucracy and lack of and unwilling to look at opinions from the tech experts, many of their decisions are well, facepalm-worthy such as their upcoming root certs (like you said above) and CRA.

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    10 months ago

    Cool. When can I have another location or backup provider on my Android phone?

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      10 months ago

      You can already use any backup apps. ADB-based, root-based or simply copying the APKs.

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        10 months ago

        Can’t back up app data without rooting my phone, and I can’t root my phone until a third party gets the make files for me to use with magisk, and Motorola is not forced to provide them.

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          10 months ago

          you can definitely back up apps and most files using adb and a computer, and probably even your phone itself by doing adb over the network back to your phone

          also, i think there’s a way of setting up a different location provider in the developper setings on android!

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    10 months ago

    Our EU saviors. Its so disappointing that we need to rely on the EU to force companies to make changes rather than our own governments…

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    10 months ago

    Couldn’t you always unlink Google services by using different accounts for them?

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      10 months ago

      you could, but they definitely pushed you to use a single account everywhere, even logging you in automatically to your google account in chrome if you use it on google search or vice-versa