Chinese Carmaker Overtakes Tesla as World’s Most Popular EV Maker::Elon Musk once scoffed at the notion that BYD could compete with his company. Now, the automaker run by billionaire Wang Chuanfu is poised to be the new No. 1 in electric vehicles.

  • RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    The fact that the headline says “Chinese Carmaker” and not “BYD” says a lot about their international market share.

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      11 months ago

      Also says a lot that despite that they still make more. Having more global sales in effectively one country is more impressive if anything.

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      11 months ago

      It says a lot about that “journalist” knowledge of the topic

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      11 months ago

      The headline also says overtakes, while it says “poised to be” in the text.

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      11 months ago

      To be honest, I think it more tells you the article was written by an American for an American audience.

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    11 months ago

    oh look, someone doing ev that can actually make vehicles, and theyve eclipsed tesla… no wayy…

    no one could have predicted this except, ya know, everyone.

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        I don’t even care about that. I want a car I can afford and fit my family including luggage in. Give me two hours of battery life with one hour of charging and I’m sold.

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          11 months ago

          Perhaps consider an used car instead of a brand new one? New electric vehicle is worse for the environment than one that already exists even if it runs on petrol/diesel

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            For me it’s less about the environment and most about the long term cost savings and needing less maintenance.

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              11 months ago

              The savings from not buying a new one pays for quite a few trips to the mechanic. New car loses half of its value in just few years so you’re guranteed to lose money anyways.

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                11 months ago

                My car is quite old, from 2007. I’m spending a lot in preventative maintenance like belts, pumps, fluids etc because I know the first real problem it’ll have I’ll have to buy something else.

                If I could just avoid all that, that would be great.

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            11 months ago

            I already got a stinker that does all that. Of course I’d also take a used electric, but they haven’t been on the market long enough. I’ve never bought a new car in my life. Don’t see the point when they cost only half as much as new when they’re only a year or two old.

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        11 months ago

        Depending on your needs and budget, Edison Motors just announced preorders for diesel/ev hybrid pickup conversion kits. I’m definitely interested in converting my 80’s square body to being a plugin hybrid with no spyware.

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      11 months ago

      Everyone hates on Tesla for obvious CEO reasons , but Tesla still has great cars. I test drove every electric car manufacturer and model available in central Florida throughout 2021/2022. The model y is by far the best in nearly every aspect. Nothing comes close.

      My model y had one panel issue. They gave me a loaner car, it was fixed in 2 days. I haven’t had any issues since. I drove it from Orlando, Florida to Toronto,CA and back without issue. It calculates where and how long to charge to continue your trip.

      Again, everyone gives it shit but the “self-driving” is 10/10 on the highway ( 7/10 on local roads). It’s not fancy lane assist and you’d have to be literally sleeping at the wheel to crash while it’s engaged. It made driving there and back a breeze.

      Best car I’ve driven so far. Hands down.

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        The model Y comfort and quality is garbage compared to any Audi, BMW, or ESPECIALLY Porsche. You are on crack if you think Tesla quality is above the Germans. It’s a shitty muscle car with a good drivetrain.

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          I have driven the iX and Taycan several times and comfortability is just better in a Tesla. My brother in law is very well off. He has a Mercedes, Porsche, bmw, McLaren and a Tesla. He rather daily drive the Tesla.

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              My brother in Christ, I have put several hours behind the taycan. The model Y is a better daily driver imo.

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        11 months ago

        Data and consumer reporting consistently rank Tesla as one of, and frequently THE, most unreliable car company by the numbers as far as quality control. It has nothing to do with Musk hate. The company is infamous for ex-managers confessing that they were told to ship them with the defects because most people didn’t bother to have them fixed.

        You “only” had a panel issue that required multiday service. That’s not supposed to happen with brand new cars.

        I’m glad you enjoy the car and driving it though, I bet they are great when they’re at their best. Apparently, the China-based ones are fine very well. But it’s okay to criticize things that should be criticized.

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        Out of curiosity, how do you use the self-driving? Do you pay attention to the road with your hands on the wheel in case it fails or do you just, I don’t know, look at the landscape? If you pay attention to the road what’s the benefit over cruise control?

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          On the highway, I haven’t had it fail or do anything weird in over a year. I watch the road, but keep my hands off. Daily commute, especially when there’s traffic, is much less of a mental burden. I’m much more at ease to check my phone or look up a song. Local roads, I keep my hand a 3’ o’clock while on the armrest. Not as liberal with diverting my eyes. Letting it do all the work makes driving better, it’s definitely more relaxing.

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            But it reduces the load because you don’t pay attention to the road? I know cruise control reduces the load because I don’t pay attention to my speed.

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        11 months ago

        My Renault Megane E-Tech has much nicer interior and better build quality in general than the Tesla Y.

        But charging times on the Tesla are really awesomely good

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        Yes. It’s very fashionable to hate Elon Musk, but unfashionable to acknowledge that someone you hate can do good stuff.

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      Man, Tesla is known for their very poor quality these days as well.

      I recall 6-7 years ago I had a family member complain about their tesla breaking down. Today, we know this is pretty standard for all of them. We’ve also all seen how trashy the build quality is outside the electronics as well.

      So… Even if these are trashy quality, are they really much worse than Tesla? I look forward to hearing more. I hope this shames Western companies into catching up, the fucking idiots.

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    I don’t wanna be that guy, but BYD are not only garbage tofu cars, they are also HEAVILY subsidized by the CCP in an effort to dump on the competition.

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        I know they are dominating the market. But I’m explaining why they are. It’s NOT because they make superior cars Each car is sold at a loss with the funding/backing of the China government with the sole purpose to dump(kill domestic competition).

        Amazon prime sorta did this on a micro scale. Dump their pricing to kill Barnes and Noble and after they go out of business, they open and replace them with their own stores. But instead of Amazon funding the dump, it’s the god damn CCP and our entire auto industry.

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        Dominating which market though? China is heavily subsidizing these cars like they do with a lot of new tech when they want to undercut non-Chinese companies. I guarantee if any other manufacturer had similar subsidies, the situation would be different.

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    I am shocked that a Chinese company with access to materials is selling heavily subsided EVs. Shocked! Meanwhile in the US, nobody can make them in quantity and when they do Americans don’t want them. Shocked!

    None of you would purchase this car to any Toyota quality wise as well. These things are sub Mitsubishi quality.

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      But it wouldn’t hurt if US could massively subsidize it’s own cheap EV options

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    Predicted for this quarter. Musk has been scoffing the idea, whilst watching them catch him and simultaneously shooting himself in the foot with his own plans.

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      Meh, the US will slap enough tariffs on these things to make their own Autoindustry competitive again.

      So will the EU.

      But china has a gigantic middle-class that can afford these things, so I hope they all switch to EV en masse… it’s a win for the planet!

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        Tariff slapping had been tried by Trump. Very poor outcomes. There will be a more moderated approach, but we will need to see how that pans out

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          I’m confused what you think is going to happen? There at 25% and Biden doesn’t think they are high enough, they are already currently in talks of increases AFAIK.

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    I remember seeing BYD in China back in the early 2000s with a logo that looks very similar to BMW’s logo. I guess they have to start somewhere by copying somebody. There were also a lot of cars that had fake badges (added by the owner, not the manufacturer) in China, there was a strong desire for the western brands, of course, that’s why Buicks and Audis were so popular in China. I guess I would stay away from that brand until it has proven itself somewhere else from China. Don’t trust any stats published out of China.