We’ve had to create a new sidebar rule, we won’t be enacting it retroactively because that just doesn’t seem fair, but going forward:
- Rule 7: We didn’t USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you’re posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
IDK, if this community has any hope of being anywhere near as comprehensive in coverage as the News Subreddits were its going to take some superusers.
if this community has any hope of being anywhere near as comprehensive in coverage as the News Subreddits
I left Reddit on purpose.
I would rather have quality than volume.
I would rather my news feed be diverse than dominated by one or two self-appointed influencers of discourse. (Even if they have good intentions.)
I approve of this rule. Ten articles per person each day is more than enough at this stage, and the threshold for “too much” can always be adjusted as the community grows.
The only reason they might dominate is because they do the posting. Anyone can make a post, if other people aren’t posting it seems silly to penalize the ones who are, spam excluded.
if other people aren’t posting it seems silly to penalize the ones who are
I suppose that’s an easy statement to agree with. However, a sensible rate limit is not a penalty.
I understand your sentiment, but I think u/jordonlund is right.
When someone posts nineteen articles, they’re likely posting everything that they’re seeing, and not even finishing articles. There’s no selection process. They’re not picking good articles, they’re just acting on reflex.
Articles should be posted because a reader actually thought that they were uniquely valuable.
I don’t think the requirements should be so stringent. Anyone with an RSS reader knows you can at least skim hundreds of articles per day. They shouldn’t have to be the best or most valuable, the only hurdle an article must clear is that it is interesting enough that someone wanted to post it. Then it’s up to community voting to sift through and promote the best ones.
I think we’ll just have to recognize that our opinions on this differ. Because i very much don’t want the product of someone skimming hundreds of articles a day. That sounds more like reading a firehose of headlines. I don’t think you can get the kind of nuanced, incisive information that I come to a place like this for.
A super user is not a spammer.
If you think that 19 is a lot of news articles for the whole planet in a single day, enough that it counts as spam, then my friend have I got news for you :-(
19 isn’t a lot for the planet, but it is a lot for a single user.
We’d rather the front page be representative of what MULTIPLE people think is important, not just one person, otherwise we might as well just turn it over to a bot pulling from the Google News algorithm.
I agree one person can’t properly sample the world stage of news.
I get why these mods didn’t like that users posts but this is such a dumb way to to put in a prevention rule. Especially when they even admit it wasn’t spam.
Why artificially limit how much people can interact to get traffic to a community?
This community censors Al Jazeera posts by calling them “duplicates” and leaves up the least anti-Israel post.
I highly doubt it cares about being comprehensive in coverage
It’s also really obvious when they’re all from the same news source or very closely related ones.
I only post a couple a day at most, but I also try to vary the news sources I’m using, so I’m not just promoting one news organization’s stance.
I like this change. Quality over quantity.
Posting full articles is probably not great, but the number of posts per time unit probably shouldn’t be limited unless it’s causing a technical issue. It’s news content. That’s why we’re subscribed.
Maybe poster is out of work right now, following the news closely, posting what seems important. Surely 10-100 important news items happen each day.
In my opinion the volume of posts isn’t the problem, but copy pasting full text from a site is the issue.
Copy/pasting the full text of an article breaks the rules at the lemmy.world level, that’s already been accounted for in the Sidebar rules.
I dunno. I personally have no problem with someone just copying what’s posted on Reddit here.
At least until there’s more engagement.
Is this about that account called “nonaturalgas” or something? Anyway somehow that one always felt off . So good job.
Correction: it’s name was naturalgasbad and he was also banned. Some other poster stated he posted several pro China articles a day.
They told me they were banned because they kept citing the Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart and the mods here preferred the Media Bias Fact Check ratings.
Please don’t assume their gender. This is basic etiquette.
As long as they are getting them from credible sources I don’t see no harm but actually a huge plus for the community. This community is one of the most successful transition-from-you-know-where and huge part of that is thanks to few who posts.
Let’s see if we can make this place better.
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Let’s say, for the sake of argument, the person taking over the front page was some tankie from hexbear, post after post of “Communism good, Democrats are Right Wing” etc. etc. etc.
The articles posted may be from a variety of sources, but their selection by the same person represents a singular point of view.
A community serving 33,000 members shouldn’t fall victim to a singular point of view.
Or, in lighter terms “Hey, give somebody else the chance to post…”
Hey, give somebody else the chance to post
They do have a chance. 🤷♂️
But I hear you on the point-of-view argument. 👍
19 articles still seems like reasonable usage to me. Spam or abuse would probably be a bit higher than that and likely include off topic and duplicate links.
That was the question I put to the other mods… “Heyyy… we don’t exactly have a rule for this, 19 seems like a lot…”
We collectively decided on 10, but this is all new, it might change!
The prime focus is making sure no single user dominates the front page. How big the “front page” is varies by app though.
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Weird change but didn’t expect anything better from this mod team
It stemmed from a user being reported for over-posting and I brought it up to the rest of the mod team going “You know, technically we don’t have a rule that covers this, what do you all think?”
I wasn’t going to make a unilateral decision, brought it to the group, and yeah, we decided 19 posts back to back to back was a little too much.
Are you sure it wasn’t a bot?
