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    Moral monsters Dan and Jennifer Mead

    Lol that’s how you should describe all the Christian hypocrites.

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    why has that egg donor had orthodontic work done? such a sign of disrespect for her perfect and all-knowing creator.

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    The title made me think that the school was being transphobic and the parents were sticking up for their kid. Nope, they’re just bonkers

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    As a preface, I absolutely agree that the parents here are very likely to be wrong in that it seems like they were ideologically opposed to their son’s identity.

    HOWEVER. I find it difficult to trust the validity and/or truth in the details given about this particular story as the article and title are both blatantly biased. On top of that, the claims made about the intentions and motivations of others are aggressively ignorant and just insanely unhelpful. You want people to double down on transphobia? Tell them they’re a terrible person and they’re only transphobic because _____. I get it, conservatives, Christians, etc should respect Trans people and their autonomy, but it’s better for literally everyone to find the best way to reach these people in a way they’d actually be receptive to, rather than trashing and dehumanizing them as monsters. If they’re conservatives, it shouldn’t be surprising when they act like it. We should also recognize that they’re people who are capable of learning to be better.

    I used to be homophobic. I was a fairly conservative Christian back in the day and the justification came via biblical principles. I didn’t learn to be better by being characterized as “he only hates gay people because he’s secretly gay himself” or “he just wants to control what other people do in the bedroom”, but rather by actually engaging my own rationalizations. I would have rejected the premise that I hated anyone who was homosexual, so any rhetoric that mirrors the dishonesty of this article would have been a non-starter. In fact, it would have seemed to me that there were no legitimate arguments to be made against my position, so I would have felt more justified with the given approach above. Being in a few opposing positions on the topic, I never believed that my concurrent position was morally wrong, even though I would strongly submit today that my position before as a conservative Christian absolutely was immoral and extremely uninformed. The takeaway I’m trying to emphasize is that going on the offensive for any such position is not only ridiculous, but very counterproductive.

    While I understand the frustration with what this article appears to portray, the added dishonesty is harmful in that we’re dehumanizing two parents who probably legitimately believe what they are doing is justified and moral. Attacking them would make them double down on their beliefs and who would directly suffer for it? Their son. So where I always found the blatant bias of articles or the always ridiculous non-argument “you just believe _____ because _____” inherently dishonest and icky, I think we should definitely take better stock of how we approach these topics for more than just the intellectual honesty, but also to recognize the second, third, and even fourth order effects our method of approach manifests. Outrage, especially about something moral, feels good, but what good is it when directed the way it is in this article? I could accuse them of being blind and only utilizing outrage as a clickbait tactic, and I have a chance of being correct, but I’m not arrogant enough to assert that I know for a fact what they believe and intend and post that on the internet.

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    Loving and supportive partners would already know everything about their kids. These people are just mad that they are not loving and supportive, and now are punishing the school for filling that role.

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        Right at the start of puberty we need to be really fucking careful letting kids decide their gender. As an atheist and a skeptic I remain skeptical of early transitioning.

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          Yes, because referring to a child by the name and pronouns they have requested will irreparably damage them. /s

          It has been proven time and again, study after study, that acceptance and support for trans people of all ages improves their quality of life. In this case simply using the requested pronouns and name can have only positive effects on the child’s life. Further gender affirming care has also been proven safe and effective. Hormones are generally not prescribed until after 16, and until then puberty blockers are proven to be both effective and completely reversible and 100% safe. They have been regularly prescribed to cis-children to manage conditions such as precocious puberty for decades. Their application to treat gender dysphoria is no different.

          There is no good reason to withhold gender affirming care from a child that is showing signs of dysphoria. Witholding treatment only leads to greater risks of selfharm or suicide.

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          The younger generation are much more open about sexuality and gender.

          Just because we didn’t talk about it and express it doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

          This has literally nothing to do with being an atheist or a skeptic. The evidence is pretty clear about all this.

          Your just a bit of a bigot actually. You should do some reading on the topic.

          They also aren’t transitioning.