These laws will ban rewards for spending money within a game for the first time, ban rewards for buying consecutive microtransactions, and ban rewards for daily log-ins.

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    I would’ve expected to see something like thus out of the EU rather than China, but at least somebody’s making the first move against the predatory monetisation of apps

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      If only those “think of the children” politicians would do this instead of attempting to ban encryption.

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      If China’s plan is successful, other countries will follow suit.

      PS: RIP my free intertwined fates in Gaming (Jiaming) Impact.

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      The Chinese government has started it‘s witch hunt against video games years ago and we have yet to see any of their draconic laws being enforced. It looks like they made them just so they can cherry pick and suppress whoever disagrees with them one way or another. This will be no exception. Gambling, prostitution and porn are all illegal in mainland China but it has always been a huge and open business in every part of the country.

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      11 months ago

      What’s predatory about this? This seems like the least forced purchase in the world – absolutely nobody needs the things they’re selling. They are like a definition of a luxury item.

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        Predatory as in they literally employ psychologists to help design them to be as addictive as they can be, then they market it towards kids or at the very least don’t really do anything to prevent kids from gambling in them (yeah it’s also partially a parenting issue but can’t really expect all parents to be tech savvy enough to understand all everything about gaming).

        Then there’s the other sucky, but just not sucky enough for it to be an illegal side of things: games that these mechanics suck ass and we are getting less and less objectively good games because more and more games seek to make some quick buck by making their games casinos of sorts.

        It’s only as luxurious as being addicted to cocaine in hopes that the next line will hit like the first one, or in game terms, hoping that the next loot box gets you the skin/character/whatever you wanted and releases that quick dopamine rush. Rinse and repeat.

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          I think the comparison to cocaine is apt. Therefore I find it increasingly odd how parents purchase their children cocaine-delivery mechanisms, and how society deems all this completely legal.

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        11 months ago

        China doing a better job regulating corporations than the west is nothing new.

        Even this current one happened while Tencent was barely recovering from another regulation set last year. Kicking megacorps while they’re down lol as they should.

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    Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Assuming it’s a clock that’s capable of being right twice a day, which isn’t every clock.

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      Y’all should temper down the sinophobia and just take a good thing for a good thing

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        Sinophobia? Bullshit. Being critical of the Chinese government is not being hateful towards its people. Find something better to be offended over.

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          China engages in this kind of “social democracy” all the time just like countries like Norway. But when Norway does it you don’t see people saying “rare Norway win”. I would call having a different standard for China vs a European country sinophobic.

          If you’re a left progressive —as most people here on Lemmy seem to be— you probably agree with most of China’s economic policy.

          China does sometimes engage in Chinese nationalism in a way that is worthy of criticism; but pretending they are worse than the U.S. in this regard is detached from reality.

          The American ruling class has already decided they want war with China. They’re just trying to find a way to justify it to us. We as progressives shouldn’t make it easy for them to justify a war between 2 nuclear powers. Such a war could very well lead to the end of the human race.

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            China does sometimes engage in Chinese nationalism in a way that is worthy of criticism; but pretending they are worse than the U.S. in this regard is detached from reality.

            Lmao

            • SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works
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              Care to elaborate? I assure you genocide and the end of humanity are no laughing matter.

              The U.S. is currently supporting a genocide in Palestine/Israel. Before that we spent 2 decades in a war —based on a lie— in which the U.S. killed up to 1 million innocent Iraqis.

              We are currently occupying many territories, to whom we deny equal rights/status as states including Guam and Puerto Rico.

              Over the last century we constantly supported coups of democratically elected governments mostly in South and Central America. (See the Monroe doctrine).

              Not to mention the soft imperialism of the IMF and the world bank.

              China deserves criticism for their genocide of the Uyghur Muslims.

              There may be further valid criticisms if they invade Taiwan. This could go either way depending on what the Taiwanese people ultimately decide. Right now most Taiwanese want to maintain the status quo. Which is strategic ambiguity.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_Taiwanese_identity

              Edit: I might also add the U.S. is currently undermining the Taiwanese people’s desire for strategic ambiguity. Putting its own geopolitical interests ahead of the desires and well-being of the Taiwanese people.

              The U.S. record of nationalist imperialism is worse than China’s.

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          This post is about China, and they obviously mean China when saying “broken clock”. What else would they be talking about??

          But I disagree with it being sinophobia; criticism doesn’t equal hate.

          • MolochAlter@lemmy.world
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            Calling china a broken clock is not sinophobia, it’d be sinophobia if it were saying the clock is broken by virtue of being chinese.

            Same as if i were to shit on the US because it’s a clown country or because it’s run by white people.

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    God, I hope they do that here. Would clear the appstores and other stores of 90% of shovelware overnight.

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    There’s so much addiction and gambling engineered into micro transactions, it’s crazy. I’m glad China is regulating it.

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    11 months ago

    The S$20000 ($15000) Genshin Impact buying spree incident in Singapore had indirectly contributed to proposed legislation.

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    Do you all expect localization is tied to laws for china? I realy don’t think so. Most games are split into global and asia/chinese versions anyway. Why should they remove these mechanics when it isn’t necessary for the market they operate in?

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      The thought process is that for many games, the majority of their revenue comes from these mechanics and from China. The games themselves will need to change to get revenue flowing. And new games won’t be made with this revenue source in general.

      This is similar to how eu regulations can lead to global changes sometimes, China is a big enough market to affect things globally.

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    This will also make for better and more enjoyable games. I wonder if players will want to spend more times with those games then.

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    I haven’t had a look at the original text from China, but wondering how much they accounted for. Any of these rules could be easily circumvented if they didn’t account for multiple scenarios.

    Rewards for spending money within a game for the first time

    “We don’t have a reward for spending money for the first time, but everyone does have a digital coupon for $5 off of their first $10 purchase when they make an account.”

    Rewards for buying consecutive microtransactions

    “The players don’t get any extras when they buy more of our digital currency, but every gacha pull does make the next 5 pulls a bit cheaper.”

    Rewards for daily log-ins.

    “No, we’re not giving rewards for daily log-ins, but players can buy this bonus that adds a gift-giving NPC to the main town for 30 days, who will trade a small parcel of premium currency for a single gold coin once per day.”

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      How do Chinese judges react to transparent attempts to circumvent laws that have the same effect as just breaking the law? I wouldn’t expect them to fall for the “I’m not touching you” defense.

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      It’s so destructive that even China doesn’t like it

      They probably love that it’s hurting competing nations, though.