Canada to announce all new cars must be zero emissions by 2035::Canada expects to announce this week that all new cars will have to be zero emissions by 2035, a senior government source said, as Ottawa is set to unveil new regulations in the latest example of countries around the world pushing for electrification.

  • Yoddel_Hickory@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Hey you made the claim in the first place, you have the burden proof. Don’t attempt to shift it.

    • bratosch@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      Well I claimed that I’ve not seen a study that accounts for all the different attributes at once. So there’s really nothing for me to provide?

      But if you really need it, MIT did a study in 2019 and they explicitly (in about 2 sentences) declare that they don’t take into account battery lifetime, capacity degradation over time, battery efficiency’s sensitivity to cold, the problem with disposing of depleted batteries. According to their study an EV has about 55% of the emissions of a traditional ICE of comparable size, not accounting for the aforementioned details, nor the fact that EVs replace batteries. I.e. they assume one set of batteries for the entire lifespan.

      Now, I might very well be wrong. And I probably am (judging from the down vote bombing). But I just want to see a thorough study of both types of vehicles with everything taken into account from basically drawing board to junkyard.

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      11 months ago

      This article, and everying about this subject, presumes EV is better than ICE. That’s the positive claim.

      Show me the math, the studies. If it holds true, this should be easy. And, it would end the debate.

      Data trumps. If the research is so overwhelmingly in favor of EVs, let’s publish that info everywhere for people to read, study, analyze. Lots easier to convince people with the information out there, warts and all.

      • frezik@midwest.social
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        11 months ago

        And, it would end the debate.

        No, you’d hemm and haw and avoid the problem. We’ve been here before.