President Emmanuel Macron's government faced a backlash Wednesday after the centrist leader called for powers to "cut off" social media in case of widespread violence like riots over the past week.
You’ve already long missed the boat for keeping fascism out of France if the sitting head of state is calling for measures like these.
This is why people on the left are so exasperated with centrists - they’re so much more willing to take heavy-handed actions against democratic issues like “hey maybe police shouldn’t be executing people” and are so much more reticent to even speak out against extremist views that have gained a solid foothold in France like “the progressive Islamisation of our country is calling into question the survival of our civilisation”.
For some reason, they see the latter as much more “valuable discussion” than the former.
For all his flaws I don’t believe Macron is fundamentally a fascist. I think he’s a corporate stooge appealing to the wealthy, the old, and the business types. France has indeed had fascism creeping in, especially with the likes of Le Pen. But France also has a long history of leftist movements and protests. So the pendulum could really swing either way at this point for them. Macron is shitty, but he’s not Le Pen. Hopefully at the next election, people vote leftwards and don’t fall for the typical fascist tactics of convincing people that immigrants and LGBT people are the real problem. Le Pen particularly scares me because she’s very cozy with Putin and has isolationist, anti-NATO tendencies. The west is already struggling to maintain a united front in support of democracy and in opposition to global authoritarianism. If France elected Le Pen, pandora’s box may be opened and there may be no coming back for France.
He almost certainly isn’t, in his heart, a fascist. But if he increases state power and wields against the left in a time of crisis, what difference do his personal values make?
IDK, I’m pretty far center and I am absolutely opposed to abuse of power and execution by cop and definitely open to heavy handed actions to get shit done…
You’ve already long missed the boat for keeping fascism out of France if the sitting head of state is calling for measures like these.
This is why people on the left are so exasperated with centrists - they’re so much more willing to take heavy-handed actions against democratic issues like “hey maybe police shouldn’t be executing people” and are so much more reticent to even speak out against extremist views that have gained a solid foothold in France like “the progressive Islamisation of our country is calling into question the survival of our civilisation”.
For some reason, they see the latter as much more “valuable discussion” than the former.
For all his flaws I don’t believe Macron is fundamentally a fascist. I think he’s a corporate stooge appealing to the wealthy, the old, and the business types. France has indeed had fascism creeping in, especially with the likes of Le Pen. But France also has a long history of leftist movements and protests. So the pendulum could really swing either way at this point for them. Macron is shitty, but he’s not Le Pen. Hopefully at the next election, people vote leftwards and don’t fall for the typical fascist tactics of convincing people that immigrants and LGBT people are the real problem. Le Pen particularly scares me because she’s very cozy with Putin and has isolationist, anti-NATO tendencies. The west is already struggling to maintain a united front in support of democracy and in opposition to global authoritarianism. If France elected Le Pen, pandora’s box may be opened and there may be no coming back for France.
He almost certainly isn’t, in his heart, a fascist. But if he increases state power and wields against the left in a time of crisis, what difference do his personal values make?
“This is why people on the left are so exasperated with centrists”
Are you suggesting that Macron is a centrist? Because I don’t follow.
Is he not a centrist?
He says he’s centre but he’s not.
What is he in your opinion?
Well solid right. I don’t think there is true centrism in France anymore (was there ever? I don’t know). There is no centre left, only centre right.
Centrism in France was always a lighter right, the only chance of real centrism was with Macron for his 1st election and we have seen how it went
Right of center corpofinancial stooge.
IDK, I’m pretty far center and I am absolutely opposed to abuse of power and execution by cop and definitely open to heavy handed actions to get shit done…