Opinion | An Early Warning That Policing May Be in Decline
www.nytimes.com
New data reveals that crime-solving rates are at record lows.

While headlines tend to focus on falling clearance rates in large liberal cities, the decline occurred nationwide in both red and blue cities, counties and states. The violent crime clearance rate, for example, fell considerably between 2019 to 2022 in big cities, which tend to be led by Democrats, as well as in small cities and suburban and rural counties, which tend to be led by Republicans.

  • Rottcodd@kbin.social
    42·
    11 months ago

    Eh?

    I said that it’s “not necessarily the case that” one thing and “it could be that” something else.

    Logic and plausibilty are all that’s necessary.

    • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
      55·
      11 months ago

      when asking for evidence, i didn’t expect equivocation and, “it’s just a guess, bro,” hand-waving in response-- see, this is why i was skeptical and asked.

      Logic and plausibilty [sic] are all that’s necessary.

      no. evidence is necessary. otherwise, it’s just speculation, and that’s just not good enough.

      • Rottcodd@kbin.social
        82·
        11 months ago

        What the fuck are you on about?

        It’s not necessarily the case though that fewer crimes are being actually “solved,” in the most precise sense of the term.

        It could be that the current heightened interest in police oversight and focus on investigation of (and huge lawsuit payouts as a consequence of) wrongdoing by the police has made it less likely that people will be railroaded/framed for crimes they didn’t actually commit, so the rate at which crimes are marked as solved has declined, even as the rate at which they actually are solved hasn’t.

        That’s everything I said, right there. What part of it are you not understanding?

        evidence is necessary. otherwise, it’s just speculation

        Of course it’s fucking speculation! What the fuck else did you think it was?!

        i didn’t expect equivocation

        It would be equivocation if there was a disjunct between the intended meaning of what I said at one point and the intended meaning of the same thing at some other point.

        But I’ve been entirely consistent in what I’ve said. The disjunct is between what YOU thought I meant and what I actually said, and that’s your fucking problem - not mine.

        • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
          26·
          11 months ago

          Yeah, I’m not reading that hissy fit. When you make assertions, back it up with evidence. If it’s just a guess, say so.