• OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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    Oh of fucking course it is going to be violent, unless the settler state caves. That is how anticolonial movements always go. But it is a lesser violence vs the continued violence its existence is predicated on.

    Please pick up wretched of the earth by Fanon at your local library, it is a very necessary read for westerners.

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      1 year ago

      Okay so you are saying that:

      • “death” in this context is used in a violent way
      • “Israel” is referring to the “White Jewish ethnostate” (in your other comment)

      Thus, “death to Israel” is calling for violence upon Jews. Antisemitic. Case closed.

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        1 year ago

        It is antisemitic to equate calling for violence against Jewish settlers partaking in genocide to calling for violence against all Jews on the basis of being Jewish.

        You’re being antisemitic. And if you aren’t Jewish, you need to shut the fuck up now. If you are, I’d be happy to explain why your position harms us as a whole.

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          Living in a place is not a reason to be killed. Being born in a place is not a reason to be killed.

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            Yeah, it really sucks that colonial violence makes anticolonial violence inevitable. Israel needs to stop doing colonial violence so that the anticolonial violence stops. It will never stop until the colonial violence stops or Israel exterminates all Palestinians.

            This isn’t a threat this is just an understanding of historical materialism.

            If you actually cared about Jewish people and weren’t interested in Jewish death to advance a settler colonial political project you’d be calling for an end to Israeli apartheid.

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              I don’t think Israel should continue its actions in Palestine. I call for an end to the apartheid. There.

              However, saying “death to Israel” doesn’t bring us any closer to peace.

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          Bu-but the non-jewish allies have very strong feelings about protecting the european settler state!!