Nine progressive Democrats voted nay:
- Jamaal Bowman
- Andre Carson
- Cori Bush
- Al Green
- Summer Lee
- Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
- Ilhan Omar
- Delia Ramirez
- Rashida Talib
They were joined by one Republican, Thomas Massie.
Six Democrats voted present on the resolution: Greg Casar, Joaquin Castro, Nydia Velázquez, Ayanna Pressley, Chuy Garcia and Pramila Jayapal.
I’m not sure how you arrived at “noble freedom fighters” from what I said. The evidence is clear that they aren’t. Hamas has existed for almost as long as this conflict has and formed when Palestinian protests were met with violence. Hamas’s solution is to use violence against Israel which makes Israel respond with more violence. At the centre of all this are Palestinians who remain oppressed and now are in the crossfire.
I mean not really; they were formed in the 80s.
As time goes on it gets closer and closer to existing as long as the conflict has. We’re over the half way mark here
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You also forget to add that one of the main goals as denoted I the original Hamas charter is destruction of Israel. They are fighting for extermination of the Israel, while Israel is fighting for its security and the right to exist.
Israel is fighting for it’s right to exist? What a deliriously stupid fucking statement, holy shit.
Thank you for not contributing into discussion, not presenting any argument.
A settler colony founded on ethnic cleansing has no right to exist
Sure, that explains why United Nation overwhelmingly voted for formation of the state of Israel.
I didn’t know truth was a popularity contest
We are talking about the right of Israel to exist. And in international law voting in UN and acceptance by countries is how things are done.
Why does an invading military have a right to exist or defend itself? By your logic Russia has a right to defend itself form the Ukrainians
Palestine statehood is recognized by many countries but denied by the Israeli occupation and blockade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine
If Hamas was shooting ONLY to the military that enters their state, we would have different conversation.
Hamas targets militants and armored vehicles while Israelis target children. You can look at the casualties and see for yourself
Israel is a colonial project that invaded Palestine. It has no right to exist.
This argument is 70 years old. And United nation disagrees by voting FOR formation of the state of Israel back then.
The UN also voted for the creation of Palestine and the Zionist settlers still wont allow it
That’s fair criticism, however, Gaza is independently governed and was not occupied. Hamas is the main reason why true 2 state solution is not possible at the present. Remove Hamas, remove terrorist organization in power in Gaza whose goal is to destroy Israel, then the 2 state solution is reality.
If you try to make Palestine state with Hamas in power, then the moment the borders are opened it will get more and more advanced armament to attack Israel. Why on earth Israel would agree to that?
If Gaza is independently government then how can Israel cut off water, electricity, food and fuel unilaterally?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-no-power-food-or-fuel/
I am sorry. This is not “targeting civilians” in order to kill them. And “human animals” in this context is Hamas. IDF would not siege Gaza if there were no Hamas inside.
At the same time, while cutting electricity and fuel is effective in terms of reducing Hamas capability to fight, I am partly agreeing with you that cutting water and food makes no much sense. This is because Hamas would have food and water anyway (they would not share with civilians either). Cutting electricity and fuel is more effective though.
This does not change anything I said before. The IDF goal is not to kill civilians, but create conditions where it is more difficult for Hamas to fight. The goal is to destroy Hamas, and civilians are victims of this war, started by Hamas, used by Hamas.
The intent is ethnic cleansing. They have said as much that the goal is to depopulate the Gaza Strip. They have called Palestinians “human animals”.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-no-power-food-or-fuel/
Lol! You can’t “exterminate” a state, genius. It’s a state. You remember what those are?
Well, tell that to Hamas.