• thantik@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I mean, it’s China’s too - as well as Saudi Arabia, and others. But Russia seems to be the most effective at it. Hell, for that matter, US intelligence does it abroad too. All first-world nations probably participate in this kind of destabilization tactic to some degree.

    Why do you think the Great Firewall of China exists? Same reason – we were filling their heads with anti-communist propaganda and that’s the only way China deemed was possible to keep us out.

    Hell, a large batch of our Republican politicians visited Russia on independence day 2018: https://americanindependent.com/republicans-congress-celebrated-fourth-of-july-russia/

    So yeah, they seem to be the ones courting our politicians the most now, and it seemed relevant to discuss.

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      11 months ago

      I’m actually more worried about Israeli influence in the US government which is well documented, and well funded, and pays huge dividends but no one ever brings them up for some reason.

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        Meanwhile I’m far more worried about individual private interests like banks and military weapons manufacturers and oil interests controlling US and every other countries interests that is even more well documented and even more detrimental to our countries and the world at large, and can be more easily fixed than complex foreign affairs, but that seems to always be the last thing anybody brings up with these things.

        But they’re all issues and playing “my issue is more important than yours” isn’t helpful for any leftist agenda man.

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          That is a separate issue with capitalism but would be a non-sequitur in the case. When liberals bring up Russia, but ignore Israel who actually do the things they accuse Russia of, it is correct to point out the contradiction.

          Of course Capitalism is a problem, but that isn’t what the person I was responding to was defending.

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            11 months ago

            When liberals bring up Russia, but ignore Israel who actually do the things they accuse Russia of, it is correct to point out the contradiction.

            You realize that Israel is basically an intelligence arm of the US, operating within range of russia and the middle east right? MOST of our intelligence tools come from Israel. THAT is why nobody is pointing it out, because they’re operating under our umbrella.

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              That’s even worse. You get that if Israel is actually an arm of the US operating clandestinely and without oversight of the American people that isn’t compatible with democracy right?

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                  11 months ago

                  Sounds like if the world “works” that way, then Jan 6th was morally correct in all ways and those fighting to preserve the status quo should be hunted down.

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                    Yeah, you’re dumb as fuck and I’m glad you showed your true colors here plain as day. Wannabe Nazi russian sympathizing trash.

                    Went from Dirty Liberals, to Capitalism to a problem, to feigning “concern” about Israel, and “America shouldn’t survive”… god damn orc.