• alliswell33 @lemmy.sdf.org
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    Insane. Supporters of Palestinians are always getting the hard treatment and condemnations meanwhile supporters of Israel and their occupation of Gaza are never treated the same.

    • salarua@sopuli.xyzOP
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      it’s all because of US propaganda. the US media has tricked their readers into thinking that being anti-Israel is being antisemitic, and since 9/11 Americans tend to view Muslims as subhuman. and of course it doesn’t help that the US send tons of military aid to Israel every year

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        As I recall, the statement said that “Israel bears full responsibility.” I disagree with that. The Israeli government and Hamas together bear full responsibility.

        I am also annoyed at the false dichotomy that criticizing one side is equal to fully supporting the other.

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          ah, but Netanyahu created his own enemy. he funded Hamas to prevent the creation of a Palestinian state, promoting it from a small extremist faction to the dominant force in Palestinian politics

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            Just because a bad person reportedly funded a terrorist group, doesn’t make them not a terrorist group.

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              i’m not denying that Hamas is a terrorist group. i think they’re evil too. what i’m saying is that Netanyahu funded them and propelled them to power, putting his own people at risk to further his political goals

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          You ain’t wrong Hamas ain’t friends to the west.

          But their crimes don’t excuse the crimes Israel is committing against the residents of Gaza.

          What is Israel is doing is wrong and time will expose it but as of now, Gaza residents will like be either exterminated or removed from there.

          With Arabs won’t do shit… Surely US or EU won’t either.

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          “Israel bears full responsibility.”

          Sorry, but… where’s the lie? Israel has borne full responsibility for this since 1948 - there is absolutely nothing Hamas can do that changes that.

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        Occupation isn’t necessary if your government controls all traffic in and out, water, power, and food.

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          It doesn’t. They also share a border with Egypt. Have they tried to make good diplomatic relations with them?

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            Have they tried to make good diplomatic relations with them?

            You mean the Egypt being ruled by a US-backed and funded dictatorship? That the Egypt we’re talking about?

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        Israel hasn’t occupied Gaza for around 18 years

        The Apartheid-regime didn’t “occupy” the Bantustans, either.

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        The Israeli settlers were removed back then but that doesn’t mean it’s not occupied. That’s the official position of the state of Israel but it’s contested by many international organizations.

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    Freedom of speech, but not freedom from the consequences of that speech.

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    I’m sorry but, good? I understand that Israel is not innocent in this conflict, and I get that Palestinians have it hard, but what Hamas just did was an atrocity. If you think this is the time to pile onto Israel, the world needs to know your priorities

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      How in the hell is this good? Whether you agree or not this is only inviting potential harm and violence against these people. As if things weren’t bad enough with the political climate here. Once again fear is being used against those with a differing opinion.

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        100% Stochastic terrorism.

        For anyone still confused Imagine the mafia boss being recorded saying “it would be a real shame in Vinny had himself an accident” and then that night one of the people who heard him say that broke vinny’s neck.

        The mafia boss didn’t actually tell anyone to do anything. But the people around, knowing that’s what he really wants, acted anyway.

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      I disagree with the students staments but if you believe doxxing them with their names and images is the correct responce you’re going to have to back yourself up in kind. Full name and photo

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      Hama’s behavior doesn’t give Israel blank check for reprisals bit that’s exactly what we got.

      Did the beheaded babies ever get confirmed?

      40?

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      Like the statement says - Israel bears full responsibility for this… and has done so since 1949.

      Also… fuck Israel.