No one really knows how things will play out but I was wondering if people are committed to Lemmy, or would the mod team migrate to greener pastures if a better, more functional alternative comes to the forefront.
I’m hoping Lemmy can improve but I personally don’t love using it. Its still early days though so that might change. There are a couple promising alternatives in development right now but since they aren’t out, everyone is migrating to lemmy.
As someone with a disability, the UI/UX is problematic and makes me physically ill after using it for a short period of time.
I like to remember how ugly and difficult it was to adjust to Reddit after moving from Digg’s slick 2.0 interface. I think Lemmy will face more growing pains but will be the best solution in the end.
Reddit has literally never had a good UI/UX. It was worth it because it was the best alternative at the time.
That said, my requirements for a reddit alternative would have to be decentralized and open source. I just couldn’t get into another situation like this one and I won’t support it.
I’m hoping some of the 3rd party talent that Reddit threw away will contribute and help refine the Lemmy experience.
They’ve already begun work, and I’m excited to see it too! SyncForLemmy and Artemis are my top two right now
Yeah, saw about sync. I’m still hoping for RIF. Jerboa is pretty close, but I’d love for a few changes
reddit shined because of 3rd party apps for me.
I am more than willing to wait for Lemmy to grow to see where it heads since it’s only been a thing since 2019.
Despite it having its fair share of problems, I am more than willing to put up with this for now since we’re still scratching the surface on the potential of a decentralized social media becoming a little more mainstream.
Come on, give it some time. It’s coming a long way, and devs are working their ass off to deliver some quality updates.
Also, there are a dozen apps in the works for iOS and Android that are to be released soon, if that’s not already the case. So you should have more choice to pick a better experience browsing lemmy in the coming days.
There’s already jerboa for android, made by lemmy.ml devs, kind of an “official” app
I mean yes, but you know… sync…
Yes I think a lot of us are waiting for the sync app. Hope it’s as good as the reddit one because that would really elevate my experience here
It’s a proprietary app though. Some other Free and Open Source alternatives:
I’m cool with it being proprietary if the dev is cool and it’s a good product. If I find a superior FOSS alternative I’ll certainly go that route
I wouldn’t count on it being the latest reddit Sync tier on the first release
But I have no doubt it’ll get there eventually, after some updates.
I’ve been a redditor for more than 16 years. Due the the recent events, I’ve been through my comments/submission history, noticing how much more active I was in the beginning. For the past, I don’t know, 5 or more years, I’ve been just lurking less and less, to the point that when it came to delete my content and account, I didn’t even have any regrets. Just did it, and that was it.
Now comes the fediverse. Here I am, commenting again, actively checking what’s happening here with a renewed enthusiasm. So yes, I’m excited for it being FOSS, federated, decentralized. By the people, for the people. Yay!
Same here, and that’s great to see.
I will switch if something better comes along that is decentralized.
The profit motive poisons everything and turns it to shit. I won’t join a social again if it can be purchased to turn me into another metric on a spreadsheet for someone to sell.
That’s a key part of the dialogue. Social media is not quite infrastructure, and it’s not a service that can be monetized without moral hazard of some kind. It should therefore be owned and operated by communities.
IMO, the solution is not to switch to something better, but to communicate to the developers on how to make the UI/UX better
They seem to be ramping up the updates lately.
Yep, I’m on lemmy.ca and in my settings I found Rediggit as a theme, which makes lemmy look similar to Old Reddit, so there’s definitely progress
Nice! I’mma check that out.
Yeah, we must keep forking or invention as a last resort to prevent fragmentation in the community.
A piracy forum needs to be decentralised and based on FOSS software to be able to have quality content, we are not advertisement friendly lol.
Lemmy is the best option.
If not Lemmy then maybe a discourse forum but that would be even worse for mobile users.
Lemmy will only get better from now on, but tbh I prefer its UI over other alternatives official app.
I’m committed to ActivityPub. I don’t really care if the specific server backend ends up being lemmy, kbin, or something new.
Eh. I was on Mastodon for a few days then left. Turns out I don’t care to follow specific people. So it’s a bit more than the protocol I will chase. The type of interaction also matters a lot.
Well yea, that’s not a knock against Mast, that’s a preference for a type of social media. Mast is the Twitter equivalent; if you don’t like Mast, you would t like Twitter (or vice versa as it were).
I think the point of Twitter is to follow famous people. Since there are very few famous people on Mastodon it makes it less useful. They need celebrities and media platforms to make the switch. That’s not really a problem for a link aggregator like Lemmy. I think this site has a bright future.
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Lots of people will hate me for this take but the best part of Twitter was its recommendation algorithm specifically between 2018-2021ish. The ability for everyone to meme about the same thing in the span of a few hours was fantastic and hilarious. I generally didn’t give a shit about following famous people and have only been on Twitter for the meme culture.
Nowadays the algorithm is TERRIBLE though. I personally can’t see myself moving to mastodon because I don’t care about individual people though.
if you don’t like mast, you wouldn’t like twitter
Well, not entirely true. I like twitter but I haven’t found the same variety of “culture” in mastodon yet. And I’m not talking about trolls or racists or whatever else twitter is known for. I follow nearly 1000 people on twitter— and few of them are “famous”—mostly because I like their art or humor or insights. Let me make it clear that I don’t have a problem with mastodon subculture; i followed many of these people as well before they moved platforms. But it’s very insular and I want to see a greater variety of posts. People posting on mastodon seem to exclusively form part of the very specific intersection in a venn diagram composed of lgbt, neurodivergent, and political activist, who fled twitter in search of a safe space at any cost (and I don’t blame them). So I find myself still opening twitter because there’s lots of gaps in my feed ranging from normie posts, memes, cynical satire, people I disagree with (yes, I wanna see those, too), lots of artists, and many figureheads from communities I’m interested on like anime and games. I feared lemmy/kbin would have a similar fate but I guess our migration happened for different reasons and I don’t feel the need to open reddit at all now because I can find/build qualitatively analogous communities here. It doesn’t depend on specific people as long as someone keeps the place alive.
As a matter of fact: I’m already eyeing to move to Kbin as soon as I can manage to install it on my server. If something even better comes up and it also works with ActivityPub, then back to moving ships it is for me
Why ActivityPub specifically?
For clarity, I’m not disagreeing, just trying to understand.
It’s a widely accepted standard for decentralised social media. It can be adapted to many use cases relatively easily. If someone makes a better link aggregator server based on ActivityPub, it would be much easier to bring all the lemmy data and users to it than if someone started from scratch. As in what happened going from Reddit to lemmy, as Reddit doesn’t have a standardised federation behavior.
Not OP but probably because it let’s us all communicate with each other. I can watch und discuss stuff from Kbin and even had a couple of Mastodon users commenting in one of my threads. It doesn’t look you on a platform, everything is more or less cross platform.
It seems like lemmy picked up the bulk of the refugees so far. Shifting again would be risky at this point, it just serves to dilute the numbers again. Some stay, some go etc.
I firmly believe this is only the beginning here. Reddit is probably fine to lurk so long as old.red*it.com remains, but it has become a pretty hostile place for people who participate.
My prediction is that reddit will just end up hosting content posted by bots and commented on by different bots and nobody will have any idea that there’s so few real users left. This will become the home for actual discussion between humans.
This.
if its not lemmy it should at least be ActivityPub compliant so users can make the decision how to follow, participate
What alternatives?
Maybe ask this question again if there actually is something better. But i’d agree. The UI should be accessible for people with disability. But maybe we need to work on lemmy and make that possible instead of waiting for something else to come along.
@hendrik @Blackbeard Keep an eye on the RBlind folks because they are working on patches to solve this problem but yes, the community of developers could/should step in to make it work. There’s also KBin https://rblind.com/
Exactly. What alternative? 4chan? Twitter?
Its like a doctor telling you how to cure your disease but you as the patient aren’t liking the advice.
Companies like Reddit are the disease and the Fediverse with its apps are the cure.
Sometimes, the customer isn’t always right.
Wise words
No apollo app no reddit. I agree the UI/UX is problematic but the native reddit ad filled app is way worse. Lemmy both has lots of room to still improve the experience but its build well enough already to actually function and people to be here.
Its also open source, decentralized, possible to self host. Aka owned by the people rather then corpos. All those things for the new homepage of the internet? I can only get so errect.
Memmy is starting to look like it could be an Apollo for Lemmy soon.
+1 For Memmy. App looks promising.
I literally just download it. Your reply is my first notification on it. 🐭
I have looked into it but since they want me to “build” it and it seems to involve typing a bunch of code I don’t understand I’m less keen on it.
Hopefully there will be a straight up app sooner rather than later, and I can download that.
go to the Github and there is a link to join the TestFlight.
If you’re on iOS you can join the testflight on the github to use the app already.
On android, you need to build it yourself for now, or wait (a few weeks probably?) until it’s fully released on the playstore.
You’re (understandably) misunderstanding how github works. The code is there for people to review if they want to, but you can just download the finished product. Are you on android or IOS?
https://wefwef.app has an identical UI to apollo
I am quite happy trying memmy now but its really cool how smooth wefwef feels for working inside a web browser.
Ikr! And if you “install” the PWA it works even better, i never expected a web app to be this good (but this says more about lazy web app developers)
I’m really into the Fediverse, so it would have to be another Fediverse software.
I think the thing there is if it’s federated it’ll probably end up federating with lemmy anyway
as someone that has had a mastodon account in existence for a few years, I’m pretty committed to the fediverse/activitypub. Fuck social media being owned by billionaires or corporate overlords. I’m so over that shit. It’s way past time to put billionaires into the fucking ground (in minecraft…but also not in minecraft)
A submarine would be better IYKWIM
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Looking at other fedi apps like Mastodon, accessibility and UI/UX will soon follow. Which is promising.
But yes, it’s the early days of Lemmy and maybe even the fediverse. So we’ll see what the future brings ;)
But yes, it’s the early days of Lemmy and maybe even the fediverse.
Agreed. I think the fediverse is still pioneer territory.
