How is that even anti semitic? They’re pointing out an action that major Jewish organisations are undeniably doing. You don’t get to play the antisemitic card for honest criticism. That’s exactly the sort of BS Israel is pulling that makes everybody annoyed at them.
It’s antisemitic because I have to justify myself as a Jew because people like them know this organization exists. As I have said multiple times- I have to justify that I am not a bad person because of my ancestry. Regularly. And you’re saying that non-Jews bear no fault there. Fucking bullshit.
Antisemitism is hatred of Jews. People assuming that you’re connected with Israel is not antisemitism, you’re just diluting the word.
Do you realise that your response is exactly what the groups are hoping for when they’re sowing their ‘Jews = Israel’ propaganda? They’re defining your identity to the world, and by getting upset at the world for accepting that propaganda, you’ve allowed the organisations to drive a wedge between you and non-Jews. As a Chinese, I experience something similar with China. I can understand your feelings of annoyance. But you’ve got to understand that you’re falling for the plans of the politicians when you respond in the way you are now.
I disagree that antisemitism is hatred. Antisemitism is the othering of Jews. People who say things like Jews are all rich are being antisemitic. Because it’s a lie and a bigoted one. People who say anything about Jews as a universal truth are being antisemitic because there are no universal commonalities amongst Jews. But people don’t care about that. They don’t even care if you’re an observant Jew. I’ve had people, completely innocently, ask me why Jews are in charge of Hollywood. They don’t mean it in a hateful way. It’s still antisemitic.
If someone asks a black person why black people are such good dancers, they aren’t being hateful, but they are being racist.
So I may be falling for politicians, but I do not agree with your definition of antisemitism.
Fair enough, I agree with you on the antisemitism point. You probably still want to take a long moment to think about the root cause of why this is happening and what they hope to gain from it.
But you said Germans. That is part of my point. Jews are not Israelis. And you are equating Jews with being the same as a nation. This is exactly why I am forced to justify that I am not a bad person just because I’m a Jew.
There doesn’t need to be an equivalency between nationality and religion, it’s simple demographics. When you make your country an ethno-religous state the lines between both get blurred and that’s what Israel wants.
Would you agree more Germans than non-Germans supported the Holocaust outside of Germany? Would you agree more Jewish people than non-Jewish people support Zionism outside of Israel?
Irrelevant. I should not have to defend myself just because I’m Jewish. I’m not an Israeli. I was not born an Israeli and I have never lived in Israel.
And if someone asked an American whose ancestors came from Germany 2000 years ago whether or not they supported the Holocaust, that would also be wrong.
I mean, my ancestors were in Germany in the 1940s. They didn’t make it past the 1940s, but they were there.
How is that even anti semitic? They’re pointing out an action that major Jewish organisations are undeniably doing. You don’t get to play the antisemitic card for honest criticism. That’s exactly the sort of BS Israel is pulling that makes everybody annoyed at them.
It’s antisemitic because I have to justify myself as a Jew because people like them know this organization exists. As I have said multiple times- I have to justify that I am not a bad person because of my ancestry. Regularly. And you’re saying that non-Jews bear no fault there. Fucking bullshit.
Antisemitism is hatred of Jews. People assuming that you’re connected with Israel is not antisemitism, you’re just diluting the word.
Do you realise that your response is exactly what the groups are hoping for when they’re sowing their ‘Jews = Israel’ propaganda? They’re defining your identity to the world, and by getting upset at the world for accepting that propaganda, you’ve allowed the organisations to drive a wedge between you and non-Jews. As a Chinese, I experience something similar with China. I can understand your feelings of annoyance. But you’ve got to understand that you’re falling for the plans of the politicians when you respond in the way you are now.
I disagree that antisemitism is hatred. Antisemitism is the othering of Jews. People who say things like Jews are all rich are being antisemitic. Because it’s a lie and a bigoted one. People who say anything about Jews as a universal truth are being antisemitic because there are no universal commonalities amongst Jews. But people don’t care about that. They don’t even care if you’re an observant Jew. I’ve had people, completely innocently, ask me why Jews are in charge of Hollywood. They don’t mean it in a hateful way. It’s still antisemitic.
If someone asks a black person why black people are such good dancers, they aren’t being hateful, but they are being racist.
So I may be falling for politicians, but I do not agree with your definition of antisemitism.
Fair enough, I agree with you on the antisemitism point. You probably still want to take a long moment to think about the root cause of why this is happening and what they hope to gain from it.
Do you think it would be offensive for someone to ask a German if they support Hitler in 1943?
Do people ask Germans born in the 70s like I was that?
No, because there wasn’t a genocide happening in Germany then like there is in Palestine today. That’s why I asked in 1943.
But you said Germans. That is part of my point. Jews are not Israelis. And you are equating Jews with being the same as a nation. This is exactly why I am forced to justify that I am not a bad person just because I’m a Jew.
There doesn’t need to be an equivalency between nationality and religion, it’s simple demographics. When you make your country an ethno-religous state the lines between both get blurred and that’s what Israel wants.
Would you agree more Germans than non-Germans supported the Holocaust outside of Germany? Would you agree more Jewish people than non-Jewish people support Zionism outside of Israel?
Irrelevant. I should not have to defend myself just because I’m Jewish. I’m not an Israeli. I was not born an Israeli and I have never lived in Israel.
And if someone asked an American whose ancestors came from Germany 2000 years ago whether or not they supported the Holocaust, that would also be wrong.
I mean, my ancestors were in Germany in the 1940s. They didn’t make it past the 1940s, but they were there.