This is another step in Project 2025
Provoke outrage with the mass deportations, then use that outrage to justify marshal law and deploying the military.
(martial)
I don’t care, I am tired of fighting my autocorrect on every 3rd word.
Fair enough 😀
It’s so bad now. I just need it to spell check, but it inserts bad grammar all the time
and replaces properly spelled words with totally different worlds, because it nose better.
A step up from sheriff law? I’m not familiar with US legalese.
Typo, he meant marital law. California want a divorce.
Sheriff don’t like it Rock the casbah
Damn, Marshall law is on trump’s side now?
What are we doing, folks?
I’ve been talking about this for a decade now and a lot of people accused me of being a conspiracy theorist.
Time is a flat circle that only consists of about 100 years. Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it (or rhyme, whatever) and those that do learn from history are doomed to watch everyone else repeat it.
its annoying and stupidifying how goddamn stupid humanity is that all it takes is 1 generation of removal to repeat the exact same fucking bullshit,
Heh. One picture says what’s on most every reasonable Americans mind.
Governor Newsome should release a statement that he and his cabinet will be discussing the effects of a possible change in State structure. If the world’s 4th largest economy were to secede from the Union, frumpy would be screwed.
Texas will be so pissed. They’re threatening to do it for centuries but can’t pull it off.
Just wondering: if California just stopped paying federal taxes would the net effect be the same? That way they haven’t gone through the process of seceding, but at the same time they are refusing to entirely be part of the union.
Also, it was the conservatives who helped weaken unions by making dues optional but forcing the union to represent non-payers anyways. Sounds perfect here. California can just stop paying, but get the protection and benefits of a tax paying state.
Plus, conservatives would absolutely fucking love this if it was Texas threatening not to pay taxes if their money goes to doctors who preform abortions or some other equally absurd shit.
Since we have allowed the Presidency to become a joke why not our whole nation. /S
If California stopped paying taxes, most of the south would be screwed.
#truth, States like Alabama would have to shut down in about a month 😂
The biggest national security threats are Trump, the Heritage Foundation, MAGA, and Musk
Not only to the nation, The entire world, Humanity, literally anything that is alive.
There might be some bigger threats to the world elsewhere. Ever wonder WHY we’re sending so much money to- shot by a sniper
Hey don’t trow indigenous groups, animals, fungi and plants it to this.
The problem seems to be specifically people that live with computers.
I think you misunderstood. They are saying Trump and those in his cult/admin are a danger to everyone and everything. Do you think the MAGA movement isn’t a threat to indigenous groups, animals, or nature at large? Just the way they’ve already attacked environmental protections should show they check every checkbox.
Oh indeed, i thought they where saying humans are toxic and over generalized to “everyone alive” holding part of the blame.
Definitely misunderstood.
Using military on your own citizens… hmmm where have I heard about this before?
Oh. Last term. Immediately. He deployed the national guard on pipeline protesters, remember?
🇨🇳 Tiananem 2
The government is at war with the Constitution and the rule of law.
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So the trump administration is fully admitting that the insurrection attempting to block the certification of the Presidential election 2021 on Jan 6 was open rebellion?
Holly shit. I hadn’t seen that last image you posted before. I didn’t realize the Jan 6 insurrectionist brought flexcuffs. That is quite disturbing. Who the fuck were they planing to kidnap or take hostage with those flexcuffs?
Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Mike Pence, and really anyone who they deemed to have offended their god-emperor and who happened to still be in the building.
They were probably associated with the ones that built the gallows outside on the lawn. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jan-6-gallows-construction-new-video/
It’s just part of their cosplay.
I mean, I could believe that if they were just on his gear or with him, but he has them in his hand, ready to use to take hostages/kidnap people. I am genuinely curious as to what his intentions were for the hostages he was planning to take.
It was common rhetoric among the supporters at the time to hang the Democratic officials that were certifying the count and then Mike Pence when he didn’t go along with their plans, they had even built a makeshift gallows out front before the assault.
I know this is sarcasm but, sadly, they don’t. I have talked to a few of them. Some either say it is patriot8c and others said it didn’t happen.
You can’t win
others said it didn’t happen.
Who is it they acknowledge trump pardoned when he got into office? If it didn’t happen, then there as no one to pardon. Yet trump came out and gleefully pardoned the lot of them. If it was “antifa” that did it, why did trump pardon antifa?
Keep in mind I’m not questioning you on this but them, and I know the mind of a MAGAt is finely tuned to support cognitive dissonance.
You can’t argue with them. They are cultists. They believe what they believe. They will breath in his farts and say it smells like 🌈.
He was just correcting a witch hunt of patriots sightseeing by the former administration./s
You know they would say that it was stolen, don’t you?
You know they would say that it was stolen, don’t you?
Sure, so they would be saying that if the government arrives at an answer that they believes violates the law, then a violent riot is permissible.
Wouldn’t that same opinion then justify a violent riot in LA (if there actually was one) if the protesters believed due process law was being violated?
They can’t logically or rationally say one is right and the other wrong.
Wouldn’t that same opinion then justify a violent riot in LA (if there actually was one)
No, in their opinion it wouldn’t because cops were protecting America from criminals.
if the protesters believed due process law was being violated?
Those among them who don’t know what the rule of law is can’t care, those who know don’t
They can’t logically or rationally say one is right and the other wrong.
They don’t have to be logical or rational, deciding what makes an exception is exactly why they’re in power.
They admit no such thing.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” - Frank Wilhoit (not the political scientist who passed away in 2010, a younger one who is alive still).
So a clone then
Heh. No a younger guy with the same name, totally unrelated who coined it in 2018 on a political science blog. I knew my wording was clumsy but was too tired to think of something better.
Here’s an interview with him by Slate if anyone’s curious.
https://slate.com/business/2022/06/wilhoits-law-conservatives-frank-wilhoit.html
This is the language from the law that would permit the President to mobilize National Guard troops in a state without its Governor’s consent.
Edited to add: found the law here, it’s small and easy to read: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2011-title10/html/USCODE-2011-title10-subtitleE-partII-chap1211-sec12406.htm
If it is invoked, it says:
Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States
But I parse that “shall” to mean the Governor is forced to comply.
How long until he declares Martial Law?
I mean, this is technically exactly that, albeit in a much more limited scope.
The last time this was invoked was in 1965, during civil rights demonstrations in Alabama. But the Federal Government sent in the troops to protect the demonstrators from their local police.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/march-20/lbj-sends-federal-troops-to-alabama
This time it’s the other way around.
Honestly one of the coolest moments in US history.
I feel like the destruction of the image of the United States is in full swing.
That’s true. However, I’m afraid that the current regime is not only working to destroy the image of the United States, but to destroy what remains of democracy.
It seems that Drump and his henchmen will stop at nothing to establish a fascist state. I think the administration’s actions as a whole point strongly in that direction.
The image of the United States was destroyed twenty years ago. It became irreparable in 2016. What’s happening now is, since Trump has destroyed all of America’s diplomatic and economic leverage, we can finally be honest about what we think of you.
While semantically I have issues with what you said, they’re not important. Overall, I agree with you. One thing I think the important take away should be the reasons I hate America is because it could be so much better. Not every American is blindly patriotic.
I cannot stress the so much better part enough.
Don’t worry, we agree, this is authoritarian imperialist colonizing shithole just like it always has been. Fascism isn’t new to America, this country was built on genocide and slavery, it’s a fucking cesspool.
This is the declaration of Martial Law.
They will remove governors next.
That is a lot harder to do, within the bounds of the law at least.
Ironically, though, California is one of a small handful of states that allow for recall elections of all elected office holders, up to and including the Governor. Recall that Arnold Schwarzenegger became Governer there due to a recall election. So if his goal is to start ejecting Governors he doesn’t like, California is a good place to start.
But Newsom has already survived one recall attempt, and since he seems to be the Next One Up for Democrats to nominate in 2028, Trump may not be eager to run a recall campaign that might lose, because Newsom will remind everyone that he “beat Trump” on the campaign trail. (And there is no guarantee that Musk won’t start tossing money at Newsom, who is enough of a schemer to accept it.)
Would be interesting if there is a way that people on the right actually join the left on this since this is the thing the right armed themselves for
The pattern I see is that most on “the right” here will not be able to break out of their disinformation bubble unless it affects them personally. So only the small portion who have seen someone they know (“one of the good ones”) harassed by ICE will respond.
That’s true. But I think we’re closer than ever to that break. The instinct of people on the left is to always rub a dogs nose in shit after it craps on the carpet. But we all know there’s better ways.
If people on the left create some bridges here and create awareness this could shift perspectives. There are lots of people on the right and left who will never be swayed on anything. But there’s a lot of people who can be. Especially over this stuff.
It gets harder and harder for trumpets to support him and this could be a bridge to far. So many right wing people’s core fear is Government doing this very thing. This might supersede their trump honeymoon
I’d love it if you were right, and this is what breaks Trump’s stranglehold on the electorate. but the advantage Trump and his friends have is that they have no shame, and lie with impunity. Those lies are attractive. Even now, I am reading that Trump released a statement saying that the troops are quelling the unrest in LA, while the Mayor says no troops have arrived. Which do you think folks in the Conservative Cinematic Universe believe?
It’s hard to break these folks out of their bubble when the side pushing the bubble can lie without consequences. Their opposition has the burden of logical consistency to overcome.
I think we just need to make more content. I feel we really under estimate memes and jokes as a way to get them to see how fucked things are. Its such a stupid idea but being able to quickly convey a message through a photo that can express an entire view point is really powerful. Nobody reads walls of text anymore. But the left seem to think we all need to win arguments online or its all pointless.
Seeing the internet flooded with artists drawing ICE patrols as Brown shirts and Trump as a devil will do more in a day then any leftist showing up to any protest.
Walz hit a nerve when he called them all weird. Because they are! We don’t need to double down on memes, but we do need to explain, in simple terms, why Trumpism is so awful.
And I don’t say “simple” because people are dumb, I say it because people are busy and don’t always have time to think things through.
You’re absolutely wrong. Subtle visual media is far more powerful than any direct argument. Just watch the debate between Ken Ham and Bill Nye it’s a perfect example. You can’t just tell someone they’re wrong and expect them to change their mind. People need to arrive at their own realizations.
That’s why creating content matters. We don’t engage with content the same way we do with people we consume it, reflect (often subconsciously), and move on. But over time, with enough content, those messages start to shape opinions. This shift will never happen if we rely solely on “facts and logic” to win arguments. People simply don’t operate that way.
At this point, after decades of the internet, it’s ignorant to think otherwise. We should all know better but somehow, we still don’t.
since this is the thing the right armed themselves for
No it isn’t and it never was. That was the excuse they used to cover their gun fetish. They always saw themselves as the shock troops of the authoritarian takeover, and the fact that they are delighted it’s happening is confirmation.
Disagree heavily. The right is a big umbrella term just like the left. I would put good money on it that a few groups are calling each other up and talking about this. I bet there will be big efforts to suppress this online.
They should be. Meanwhile, the governor, while criticizing Trump, was still whitewashing him when he said he would be willing to work with him. That’s the thing, fascist dictators will fabricate if they are not able to force a situation, and sometimes that’s to handle the situation before it ever gets a chance to materialize. Look at Erdogan and the failed 2016 military coup that basically disarmed any further attempts against him. Trump wants to prevent and punish rebellion because he knows that where he is going to bring the United States is going to instill a lot of it.
States do need to secede, the US is no longer operating within the constitution, it is their only out, and Trump is going to do everything to prevent it. The problem is, a lot of states should be coordinating together on this and falling back to Articles of Confederation between them to retain their autonomy and prevent the subverted military agencies from invading them. It really requires a mindset to resist forcefully if necessary while people are still getting brainwashed through their social network bubbles and the militarized occupation forces are already present. The constitution is no longer in effect, all branches of government are now irrevocably corrupt, and Trump is crowning himself not as a modern king but as the type of king the thirteen colonies rebelled against.
In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.
As I understand, this is not a thing the regular Armed Forces can do, correct? I thought that only the National Guard could conduct non-training operations on US soil and/or against US citizens, barring an invasion or secession. Does anyone know more than me about this?
Yes. Out of the federal military branches, only the coast guard can: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.
- Catch-22, Joseph Heller
Noem tried to peddle habeas corpus, a legal principle with centuries of legal tradition, as Trump’s right to do whatever he wants. Of course they would sell what’s going on in LA as whatever fits their agenda.
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