• KptnAutismus@lemmy.world
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    in my mind, it’s not even capitalism. there are rules against monopolies, and people are supposed to pay their taxes to not become unfathomably rich. these rules are just not enforced, because everyone is arguing about wether trans people deserve to exist or not. politicians need to take their job seriously. and the only way to change that is from within. join a party and do jour job properly. complaining about capitalism isn’t making the situation better either.

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      Capitalism is the problem because it incentivizes these behaviors and allows “capital” (i.e. rich people) to control the political process. The people who are pushing the anti-trans agenda - just like the gay marriage scare of the past - are doing so to manipulate people into voting against their own interests to elect politicians who are loudly subservient to capital. It’s not a coincidence that the same people, i.e. Republicans, have been pushing for trickle-down economics and privatizing social security for decades. Democrats aren’t much better. In some part because Citizens United (a Republican gift to the rich) declared that money = speech, and so it’s hard to compete electorally without caving in to the demands of capital. So, they do dumb shit like propose privatizing the water supply:

      https://therealnews.com/biden-infrastructure-report-pushes-disastrous-water-privatization-schemes-watchdog-says

      And this doesn’t even get into the real nasty part of capitalism which is the plunder and exploitation of the global south that has gone on for centuries to build today’s capitalist society.

      If you have actions you plan to take that will get your elected representatives to stop doing things that makes the ultrawealthy richer and start doing things that improve the lives of everyone else (UBI, universal healthcare, equality for all) under the capitalist system we have, then go ahead and get on it. People pointing out the flaws in capitalism is not the reason you have thus far been unsuccessful. And when you call for everyone to stop criticizing capitalism, as if it is some universal equilibrium that is undeniably correct, you are carrying water for the very people you want to oppose.

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      Well the other problem with capitalism is that when the wealth inevitably funnels to a few, those few can then pay scraps to politicians to keep getting richer. If you don’t co-operate, well they’ll just pay the other party instead. Good luck winning when guess what, they also own the news networks. They own the social media. If you think it can be magically solved by joining a party and doing your job properly then you really don’t grasp the reality of the whole situation.

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        You’ve got a point, but with that attitude nothing will get anywhere… At least if you did in there’s a chance for a better outcome where you get a chance to influence things

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      Tell me you don’t understand the first thing about what capitalism is or how it works without saying you don’t know the first thing about capitalism or how it works… And yet you clutch to it like a turkey voting for Christmas…

      Perhaps consider looking in to the works produced by the minds who dedicated their lives and careers to the subject, rather than your own, clearly uninformed one?

      https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/beyond-trafficking-and-slavery/marx-exploitation-abc-unequal-world/

      https://jacobin.com/2022/06/karl-marx-labor-theory-of-value-ga-cohen-economics

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/12/capitalism-isnt-broken-its-working-all-too-well-and-were-the-worse-for-it

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        Yes because how many people has communism raised out of poverty? O right I forgot how russians are stealing washers and toilets from Ukrainians and NK is an amazing place in the summer…or how china doesn’t have suicide nets or social credit scores…

        The only people who want communism are the idiots from the west in their nice apartments, who have never lived under communism…lol

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          O right I forgot how russians are stealing washers and toilets from Ukrainians

          Russia is a capitalist state.

          NK is an amazing place in the summer

          The vast majority of north Korea was destroyed by the US. Maybe if the US hadn’t done that, things would be better for them.

          how china doesn’t have suicide nets or social credit scores

          Completely irrelevant to how many people communism has lifted out of poverty. The west also has issues with suicide and we also have credit scores.

          If you’re actually interested, read this

          According to the World Bank, more than 850 million Chinese people have been lifted out of extreme poverty; China’s poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 0.7 percent in 2015

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      you’re not exactly saying the thing on the meme, but god, the line is awfully thin. capitalism IS the unfathomably rich.

      politicians are doing exactly what they’re there for: protecting the interets of the unfathomably rich.

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      The rules aren’t enforced because capitalists are buying their way into politics, so much do that they’ve gutted the IRS. BTW, they can’t even do most of their work on computers, because of lobbying from Intuit and H&R Block.

      I think you have good intentions, but you miss the fact that money talks in this fucked up ecosystem.

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      these rules are just not enforced

      And the argument for that is always because they’re anticapitalist, my dude. Even if you agree with the core tenets of capitalism, it’s a hard argument to claim it hasn’t been weaponized in multiple ways.

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      But how does that make any sense in regards to trans issues?

      Like, I’d get if maybe some laws weren’t being brought to vote because it doesn’t fit the agenda for the day, but do you really think all 3 branches of our government are so embroiled in lgbtq+ issues that they aren’t making other laws? How does what politicians are discussing on social media or on television affect whether a regulatory agency is going to open their eyes and prosecute when things are put on their desk? Is the SEC (not the government, but the governments enforcers) discussing trans medicine this whole time instead of intentionally looking away from white collar theft?

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        The reason trans people are being targeted is because the Republican party has become a proto-fascist party. Part of fascism is to have an out-group that can be scapegoated. The best method to identify these targets is in the way they’re framed.

        They’re infinitely strong with all the allies and lots of power. But they’re also super weak and easy to defeat

        This is the framing device fascists use to gain power. Of course, this target always changes and becomes more regressive. As the famous poem goes, “first they came for the communists”

        The reason they target trans people is because they’re an easy target. Trans people don’t have the money of billionaires, the infrastructure of support, or the critical mass of people with positive opinions towards trans people. Fascism is different in every country that falls for it, so no it’s not a requirement to hate Jewish people for a person, party, or country to be fascist. In an ironic twist of fate, I’d argue that the government of Israel is a fascist nation, with Palestinians being the target of fascist hate and influenced by Apartheid and Jim Crow (random aside, Jim Crow also influenced Fascist Germany and Apartheid).

        Anyways, back on topic. The laws being passed to target trans people are also nebulous and vague, creating the groundwork to target the next group they choose to persecute. Historically and through stated visions, the next target will be gay people. To the gay people that believe “support LGB not the T”, you will be the next target of Republican ire if you allow this attack on trans people to continue. Your observation is absolutely correct, the attack on trans people is not a whole-government operation, yet. Fascism is a merging of state and capital. As the death cult becomes more hostile towards people not in the in-group, the SEC will eventually start prosecuting trans people for securities fraud for working at a publicly traded company. It’s a slow boil, don’t be the frog in the water.