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The person usually tells you more with body language than their tattoos do. Face tattoos are exclusively on people with serious emotional problems, however, and I avoid them like leprosy.
It depends a lot on the tattoos though. Some tattoos show forethought and patience. Other tattoos show poor decision making. It really just depends.
I love shitty tattoos.
Not on myself, mind you.
We once spend nearly an hour going through the tattoos on tattoo shop (in a nearby town popular with bikers) Facebook page.
Every single one looked like it had been done in prison by somebody who had never done one before, and indeed had never drawn anything before.
I thought that was a double amputee for a second.
If I had tatoos that ugly I would seriously consider becoming one.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. It’s basically a visible representation of somebody’s thought process. It may indicate something important to them, something they’re passionate about, or just a point decision without due consideration for consequences.
People get tattoos that are extremely artistic and represent a significant investment in both time and money. Many get tattoos about something they have a passion for. Some to honor deceased loved ones. Some to represent their culture.
Others get a facial tat with prison symbols or to make themselves look like a lizard/devil, which I can only describe as a “look-at-me” tattoo. That may not be the type of personality you want working for you or even to hang out with.
Others it’s a “hey we were drinking and just got this cool new tattoo gun” or “I wanted ink but didn’t bother to research local artists or pay for someone that does good work or can spell” …
“Shagger Mike’s Stag-do '14” above a penis with a top hat.
HR: “This guy’s exec material”
According to the Trump administration, the entire population within a specific range of millennials are gang members to the last.
OG Boomers and Silents are gang members, but they’re called lodges and esoteric societies, sometimes churches for tax reasons.
Remember that the primary efforts of Black Panthers and Hezbollah are community support (often cooperating with NGOs like Red Cross and Doctors Without Borders), we can expect that other terrorist organizations are similarly extremist.
That is a great way to put it, actually
“Showing up on time” is the lowest possible bar, isn’t it?
I’m reminded of the Chris Rock bit about people bragging about “paying their bills” and “taking care of their family” as if it’s a huge accomplishment. These are just things you’re supposed to do!
That’s a real struggle for a lot of people. I’ll admit to habitually coming into the office at 8:15 or 8:30. But I found a career where that works, so it’s okay. In an old job where punctuality was more important (shift work), I had to buckle down a bit more.
Meanwhile, my parent’s housekeeper that comes in once a month or so for a deep clean absolutely cannot hold a regular job, because I’ve never known her to arrive within 3 hours of when she planned. The first time she was hired was for a make-ready on their house that was being built while we were all living in campers on their property during Covid. I went over to the new house to grab some ice from the freezer at like midnight, and found her dusting the master bedroom because she hadn’t arrived until like 5pm and make-readies take all day.
That being said, she does and I’d recommend her to anybody, so long as they’re okay with the housekeeper occasionally being there at like 7 or 8 at night when they were supposed to be there from like 10am till noon.
“Showing up on time” is the lowest possible bar, isn’t it?
Recently I found an old school yearbook. My entry was written by someone who barely knew me. Said something about me showing up on time all the time. Now, I was like “holy shit that’s cringe, I don’t want that on my tombstone”.
Would you prefer “Was late to his own funeral”?
I think that’s what’ll be on mine.
I home i’d be ‘late’ at my own funeral. The late rumba. I ain’t holding that shit while I’m alive.
Better than showing up on time some of the time.
Do you happen to have a link to that video?
With a decent tolerance for pain
An important attribute for people looking to join IT support or retail
Years ago I was asked by a recruiter if I had any tattoos and piercings - I don’t, but told them I wasn’t interested in working for a client who’d let that get in the way of hiring the right people.
I still laugh at recruiters who ask if I’m okay that the company has a dress code.
I laugh even harder if it’s a remote position.
The thing is, people can commit to different things. A classic saying in recovery is “If you put as much effort into your recovery as you did your addiction you would be on top of the world” or whatever. Would you walk 4 hours to make it to a job interview like you would to pick up heroin? etc
Someone might be really into adorning their body with art, but maybe wont show up to crunch data and smile at customers.
I’ve got no problem with tattoos generally, but certain specific tattoos are red flags.
Literally this.
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Thankfully no 88’s. I’m not familiar with the significance of 13, is it related to 1312? I just have the 1312 on the inside brim of a hat.
See my comment below /above for a brief explanation. I thought people might not know what this person was referring to.
Gang members everywhere. Myself included.
Some history of the modern lucky 13 tattoo tradition.
TRIGGER WARNING FOR AMERICAN READERS: The popularity of the #13 in modern tattoo culture is the work of a famous American tattoo artist.
Americans are wild. The creator of the modern ritual of the lucky Friday the 13th tattoo which is based on old sailing tattoo tradition is Oliver Peck, an American tattoo artist who has made this very popular within tattoo culture in the last several decades especially in North America but also around the globe. Every Friday the 13th he tattoos $13 #13 tattoos for 24 hours along with all the artists in his studio. This has caught on throughout the world and now many tattooists also do the same. Many enthusiasts have at least one lucky 13 tattoo amongst their collections. It is in reference to taking back the bad luck associated with Friday the 13th.
Oliver Peck lives and works in DALLAS, TEXAS the heart of the bullshit movement and is even somewhat of a rich celebrity in his own right. He gets 1200 people to his shop regularly on Friday the 13th events and people travel from all over the world to get his art on them. He had a tv show for some time as well. He is also known to have been caught up in some racially motivated hate controversy like blackface costumes and such which led to his firing from said tv show. He says he is ashamed for that time in his life and is not that person but he did do it multiple times once with an “N” on his chest as part of his “costume”. He himself has a world record for tattooing the most 13’s in 24 hours. He also used to hold the record for the most #13 tattoos on one individual but I’m not sure if that still stands.
No wonder your problems are so large. Very few of you even have any idea what you are talking about but you wildly profile people who like a kind of art. It’s weird and fucked up and led to the downfall of your society but I bet you’ll fight me about it. Or attack me for something I’ve said.
Or attack me for something I’ve said.
That last paragraph makes you sound like a sanctimonious asshole. Most of the things you say do, but that did as well.
Yes cause the sanctimonious asshole gets some real nice doozies from muricans happy to live under a dictator right now. Exactly like you’re doing.
Perhaps you didn’t read the rest of the smug sanctimonious assholes telling everyone anyone with tattoos basically reserves this treatment because they’re scum.
Either way…I’ll take sanctimonious over slave to a regime any day.
Have a great day. Thanks for the comment.
FWIW I’m specifically referring to WS shit like swastikas, totenkopfs, 1488’s, etc.
I get ya. All good. I wanted folks to know. Not one attack after I posted though. I am surprised everyone could digest this and not lose their shit. Maybe they didn’t read it.
I put this specifically because 13’s are extremely popular within a portion of the population and get lumped into MS-13 tattoos but have completely different histories.
I’m general I agree, but I draw the line at face tattoos. If you have face tattoos I assume you are dumb as sticks.
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I’ve seen people describe face and neck tattoos as the “everlasting job stopper”
Depends on the job tbh. I couldn’t care less about a software developer with face tattoos even if I think less of their life choices.
Depends on the location. I know lots of hard working individuals who hold good jobs in all kinds of different settings that have tattoos. I am Canadian however so I live in a society that doesn’t judge others so harshly for personal decisions that only affect themselves.
I feel like face tattoos are judged too harshly at one point in time all tattoos were judged as harshly as face tattoos are now. All of it is arbitrary who cares if someone chose to get a tattoo on their face?
I wish people could do what they want to their bodies without judgment but I don’t see that ever happening.
People change throughout their entire lives, and ideas that seemed effin’ cool when we were young and pretty, well, maybe they felt less cool as we sobered up and aged. I think most of us can relate to the feeling that once or twice, the younger version of ourselves sure was a goddamned idiot who made some dumbass decisions that made our future life twice as hard as it needed to be.
But yeah, nothing screams cool like a 50+ year old with face tattoos.
why judge them for it though? as long as the tattoo itself isn’t hateful or something I don’t really care about what or where they get tattooed. If they regret their tattoo its still their choice to do what they want with their bodies. what if they don’t regret it? we all make bad choices sometimes but there are a lot worse things you can do than get a bad tattoo.
But then I don’t get to judge other people for their decisions that have no effect on me whatsoever. How would I make myself feel better about my terrible existence?
I just hit 50 this past year. I am old now. No work to answer to. I have an appointment for a face tattoo in the next while. I already have hand and high neck tattoos. I’m glad you hate the idea. It makes me happy. I despise bigots.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ethan-westbrooks-face-tattoo-2014-9
tl,dr the man got a tattoo on his face because he knew that would disqualify him for any job except playing pro football.
Well that’s a risky gamble…
Doesn’t super look like it paid off
While I’d never do something like that, I can see his point. Sometimes the only way forward is to burn your bridges.
Also, all this talk about face tattoos reminds me of one of the all time great science fiction novels, “The Stars My Destination,” by Alfred Bester. One of the subplots is that the hero gets tattoos that make it easy for his enemies to find him.
That was my favorite book when I was a kid. I only learned that it’s the Sci-fi version of the classic book “Count of Monte Cristo” as an adult.
I bet that kid grew up watching full metal alchemist
I would actually not care nor measure that into my judgment. At one particular time in their life, this felt like a great idea to them. We didn’t live their life, we can’t know. It might even make up for a great story to tell.
And on top of that: I see no difference to make-up, except it’s permanent. Women paint their faces like they’re applying to Clowns college and noone bats an eye. A nice face-tattoo is just more plainly identifieable as paint than good makeup is.
Not talking about a swastika or other stupid messages of course. If you portrait stupid messages I’m forced to deduct you’re stupid.
The permanence IS the most important difference though. One requires you to knowingly make the decision you’ll have it on your face forever.
So many decisions are permanent. Philosophically speaking, every decicsson is. If you decide to get that burito later you will forever be the person that decided to get that burito in that decision.
Someone decides to go to college and spends 5 years there. That is forever. They can decide to go into a different profession of course or get a second degree in something else but those 5 years are gone. And that decision should be mutch mutch mutch more relevant to somebody hiring you that a cosmetic decision. And yet we say to children that they can change their courses and degrees if they are not right but we say a tatoo is a mark against you forever.
Its 100% prejudice from a time when tattoos were (in western society) mainly related to gang association. A point that is 0% relevant today.
Yes, from a philosophical standpoint, even the water I just drank was a permanent decision.
But face tattoos are a permanent change to your appearance that you KNOW you might be discriminated against for AND can’t cover up so making that decision implies that you don’t consider potential negative future effects of your actions, or don’t care.
You can absolutely cover up face tattoos. It’s even easier in colder climates. Also, and I know it’s a bit of a reach, but coming out publicly is a permanent change that you know you might be discriminated against for. Should everyone stay in the closet because it brings fewer negative future effects?
Let people do what makes them happy, after all, it doesn’t hurt anyone (except themselves for a bit while getting it).
There are positive aspects to coming out if you’re in the closet. What’s the positive aspect of face tattoos?
And I know about life in colder climates. When did you last have a job interview outdoors though?
Yes, everyone is free to do it. Everyone else is also free to judge them for it though.
There are positive aspects to coming out if you’re in the closet. What’s the positive aspect of face tattoos?
It makes one happy?
And I know about life in colder climates. When did you last have a job interview outdoors though?
I just said it’s possible to cover up, job interviews weren’t part of this.
Yes, everyone is free to do it. Everyone else is also free to judge them for it though.
What’s the point though. They are already judged enough, I don’t think it’s a good idea to worsen that.
I don’t see much of a difference. Besides the obvious physical one of course. You have paint on your face right now, whatever kind it might be. Maybe it’s a message, maybe you’re dumb, maybe you’ve made a big mistake at some time, maybe not. But should I care? Are you good people or a mean piece of human garbage? That is what counts (to me). You could be either, with or without paint. My prejudgment doesn’t cloud my actual judgment of you.
Make up not being permanent is a big reason why it’s perfectly OK to use it even if you look like a clown. I’m a dude and occasionally use make up at certain parties.
You seem to agree with me that face tattoos are a terrible idea, but you empathise with their idiot younger selves. I get it, and probably IRL I would not be so merciless. But I prefer that my kids know that face tattoos are a terrible idea even if some people will show them some sympathy.
I prefer that my kids know that face tattoos are a terrible idea…
Ever heard of a cyclical issue? Basically, you believe that people will think less of them for having face tattoos because you think less of people with face tattoos. You’re perpetuating the intolerance that you fear your kids would face.
Tattoos don’t mean that you’re stupid, especially not in today’s world where tattoo removal is increasingly available to the laymen. What do you gain by judging people in that way? Just more reason to feel better than them?
Can’t see the forest for the trees.
I wouldn’t say they’re a terrible idea. Except maybe you’d want to work one of those boring ass jobs where a stick up your arse is a requirement. Like accountant, salesman or bank-clerk.
But besides your own consequences in this world for having makeup or face-tats, I couldn’t care less. You’re not defined by the clothes you wear, the money in your accounts, the color of your skin, nor the paint you put on that. Permanent or not. Unless, as said, the message is obvious (swastika et al) and hence more judge-able. You’re defined by your actions. The facetat-dude could be the loveliest dude ever, while the suit could be the worst kid-beater.
What I would do is having a prejudgment maybe. But that is just by looking at you and has no intrinsic value at all, until you proove me right or wrong. Just a first impression.
I would (and actually do) hire anyone for anything if they prove to be good people (and obviously abled for the job). Heck, I have one dude managing a branch that is covered in tats (face too), wears some rock- or punk whatever outfit, is a harley-biker with rings heavier than my watch and looks like 3 angry people melted into one big SOB 😁… And is one of the kindest persons I’ve ever met who helps everyone and works his free time in a soup-kitchen.
Long story short: prejudgment should be just that. A quick judgment based on appearance prior to a real judgment based on character.
I possibly would allow ones around the edges, and of course Maori face tattoos are fine; but otherwise, yeah.
OK, fine. I will take face tattoos on a case by case basis but they’re walking on thin ice.
and of course Maori face tattoos are fine
Why?
Because the majority of people with Maori face tattoos are Maori, not gobshites.
Floridian culture does not get the same respect, I’m guessing?
Don’t underestimate the stupidity of white people looking for an identity to fill the void of meaning in their lives.
Since New Zealand isn’t very big, there’s a good chance we’re just a fad away from having millions of 22 year olds getting shitty imitations onto their faces thus ruining it for the Maori.
It’s not cultural appropriation BTW, because Kaylee and Braden absolutely do have Maori heritage 409 generations ago!
Americans are weird.
Thoroughly weird.
That guy posts on ich_iel though.
All I gotta say is thank goodness for tags. How else would one keep track of all the crazy fascists and Nazis.
“They get a pass because they normalized it sooner”
They’re also patient and willing to push through a bit of pain for a reward
“Not where a judge can see”
Tattoos also apparently taste bad, so they are also good at risk management, as they’re avoiding cannibals
so they are also good at risk management, as they’re avoiding cannibals
Eh, I’d argue it’s actually the exact opposite of good risk management. They’ve spent a lot of time and money mitigating something that’s extremely unlikely to ever pose a problem. They should take a step back and reevaluate that risk matrix, maybe get a second opinion on it too.
Mah man, that’s just what the cannibals want you to think! /j
Christians are cannibals (they have a ritual), that’s why they don’t like tattoos.
Is that why sailors got tattows? xD
Avoiding becoming long pork is as valid reason as any I suppose hah
serious answer
I think a lot of it was for identification of bodies if they are otherwise disfigured in death :3… as well as other things like superstition, or marking important achievements ^^
Also they liked to share stuff with the local people, I think getting a tattow was also a big part of that.
I assumed at first it was a typo, but you’ve done it twice now. What’s a tattow?
Last week I saw an East Asian guy with sleeves and neck. That hits different.
yeah tattoo culture is really going through a massive shift. in 2010 no one in korea had tattoos, or if they did they kept them secret. the only ones with tattoos were involved in organized crime. if you took your shirt off at the bathhouse, people would get scared, that degree of discomfort.
now you go to korea in 2025 and you see young people with tats everywhere!
That description of 2010 Korea sounds like Japan, except it hasn’t changed in Japan as it did in Korea. Some public baths outright ban people with tattoos. Tattoos are still pretty much a taboo (pun intended) in Japan.
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they got the Yakuza to worry about, i guess.
